VVEL control unlocked

Red__Zed · 10-29-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by show2nite

Spoke to GTM they have no idea about this.

This sounds familiar, where have I heard this?

VVEL control unlocked

show2nite · 10-29-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

This sounds familiar, where have I heard this?

VVEL control unlocked

Spoke to UPREV this so called break through is not factual according to Uprev and you and others can verify on UPREV FB page where the company provide their latest update.

Red__Zed · 10-29-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by show2nite

Spoke to UPREV also this so called latest break through is not factual according to Uprev and you and others can on their FB page where the company provide their latest update.

Their latest Facebook update says "grabbing some breakfast at the pepper mill."

I'm not sure what that signifies relative to this, perhaps you can interpret?

I don't really care one way or the other, but I find it doubtful you called both gtm and uprev about this.

show2nite · 10-29-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Their latest Facebook update says "grabbing some breakfast at the pepper mill."

I'm not sure what that signifies relative to this, perhaps you can interpret?

I don't really care one way or the other, but I find it doubtful you called both gtm and uprev about this.

Bro I have no fcuking reason to lie over something so petty, you can call SAM or Mike or you can also call the technical dept for UPREV and ask for your sell instead of promoting Fool's Gold.

Red__Zed · 10-29-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by show2nite

Bro I have no fcuking reason to lie over something so petty, you can called SAM or Mike or you can also called the technical dept for UPREV and ask for your sell instead of promoting Fool's Gold.

English please.

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Originally Posted by Megan370z

just an info that I got from Jared on the 13th Aug. copy/paste from my email.

No VVEL yet. We have one beta version that a few people have played with, but you have to be very careful because you CAN run the valves into the pistons with too much advance and lift at the same time (there is a interference safety table that should NOT be adjusted).

We're also still missing what controls the advance. It's much more active on these engines so it appears to be controlled by a formula not a table.

show2nite · 10-29-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

English please.

Feel free to hold on to something that is not finalized or yet in production to do as you claim.

And my typo's where corrected. before your latest response.

Thanks

And does Jared work for UPREV.........or is he a tuner?

O&G · 10-29-2012, 02:48 PM

someone needs to read the entire thread very slowly and not be so angry! Key words to look for: beta version and pro tuners. I thought we were well past this phase in the thread, lol.

gomer_110 · 10-29-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by show2nite

Feel free to hold on to something that is not finalized or yet in production to do as you claim.

And my typo's where corrected. before your latest response.

Thanks

And does Jared work for UPREV.........or is he a tuner?

I smell a troll.

troll spray.jpg

show2nite · 10-29-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by O&G

someone needs to read the entire thread very slowly and not be so angry! Key words to look for: beta version and pro tuners. I thought we were well past this phase in the thread, lol.

I will respect the thread history, allow me to gracefully bow out!

Spikuh · 10-29-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by show2nite

Feel free to hold on to something that is not finalized or yet in production to do as you claim.

And my typo's where corrected. before your latest response.

Thanks

And does Jared work for UPREV.........or is he a tuner?

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Originally Posted by seymore4

Whenever there is a big change to the software Jared @ Uprev sends an email to all protuners letting them know the details.

I know of no such email.

I find it hard to believe that uprev would release some new software to only one protuner and not the rest... especially one that isn't even one of their bigger customers.. (forged, GTM, R/T, etc)

He works at uprev it seems.

Red__Zed · 10-29-2012, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by show2nite

Feel free to hold on to something that is not finalized or yet in production to do as you claim.

And my typo's where corrected. before your latest response.

Thanks

And does Jared work for UPREV.........or is he a tuner?

I think you are very confused about what is being discussed.

gabe3d · 10-29-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370

ya excpet there vvti works NOTHING like our our VVEL... in absolutely no way, shape, or form would any technology unlocked by toyota tuners translate to our cars. the ONLY similarity between the 2 is that they changed valve timing... thats it. thats like comparing our cars to the bmw vanos system. it makes no sense to go on and on about who called the damn system a vvt, vvti, or vvtlmnop... who cares. it has nothing to do with our engine, VVEL, or the tuning we have to do to it

Since you didn't quite comprehend what was previously posted. I'll summarize for you.

Nissan VVEL, BMW Valvetronic and Toyota Valvematic achieve the same in regards to continuous lift control.

Nissan VTC, BMW Vanos and Toyota VVT achieve the same in regards to timing control.

Unless if we have the Einstein of tuning working on our platform it's safe to say that the average tuner's skills is unilaterally equal on all platforms.

O&G's result's are good and are expected since turbo's performance are highly affected by timing change when moving over from an NA setup. The exciting part is when they start changing lift, otherwise the tuning capability will be same as an HR head swap.

asdfsammich · 10-30-2012, 12:44 AM

Nice synopsis! Saved me tons of reading.

I did notice a comment, a few posts up, that sounded interesting, even for NA guys.

So, stupid question. It seemed like folks were implying VVEL tuning may include throttle control disabling via ECU? Or, did misinterpret?

Tapatalk & such etc

Spikuh · 10-30-2012, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by asdfsammich

Nice synopsis! Saved me tons of reading.

I did notice a comment, a few posts up, that sounded interesting, even for NA guys.

So, stupid question. It seemed like folks were implying VVEL tuning may include throttle control disabling via ECU? Or, did misinterpret?

Tapatalk & such etc

It sounded like there was a way to make the electronic throttle behave like a cable throttle, but in doing so you lose the SynchroRev feature.

SS_Firehawk · 10-30-2012, 10:13 AM

It might use the throttle map to rev match accurately. I didn't know SRM was so deep in the vehicle. It could be why it took so long for any one manufacturer to bring it to market. Even now, I think BMW may be the only other one that has it on one of their models.

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asdfsammich Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 456 Drives: 09 370Z SR MT Rep Power: 14	Nice synopsis! Saved me tons of reading. I did notice a comment, a few posts up, that sounded interesting, even for NA guys. So, stupid question. It seemed like folks were implying VVEL tuning may include throttle control disabling via ECU? Or, did misinterpret? Tapatalk & such etc