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niznizbobo · 03-07-2012, 07:47 AM

Hello everyone here, I am new with the tune stuff, and I am looking to buy the Osiris, but not sure which one to buy! The standard one or the tuner one? Can anyone here explain what is the difference between them? And which one should I get. Thanks.

fxroar · 03-07-2012, 08:03 AM

Standard gets you:
Up to 5 Maps on cruise control equipped vehicles Idle RPM Speed Limiter Electronic Throttle Control to achieve Wide Open Throttle at all speeds. Rev Limiter DTC disable AFR Targets Fuel Compensation Ignition Timing Advance Cam Phasing for equipped vehicles.

Tuner gets you:
5 Maps on cruise control equipped vehicles Idle RPM Speed Limiter Electronic Throttle Control to achieve Wide Open Throttle at all speeds. Rev Limiter DTC disable AFR Targets Fuel Compensation Ignition Timing Advance Cam Phasing for equipped vehicles. MAF transfer function Cranking Enrichment and Ignition Advance Injector Latency K Fuel Multiplier Intake Temp Calculated Load vs. RPM Minimum Effective Injector Pulse Width

Definitely Tuner if you got the extra cash. Much more option to crank up performance. Both will still require $250-$300 worth of dyno time. Good luck!

erkthejerk73 · 03-07-2012, 10:21 AM

standard = the ability to datalog on your own computer, you can check CEL's and clear them you can not change the tune with this version you will have to take it to someone else who has the tuner license.

tuner = The ability to tune your own car with out paying someone else to do it.

sixpax · 03-07-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by erkthejerk73

standard = the ability to datalog on your own computer, you can check CEL's and clear them you can not change the tune with this version you will have to take it to someone else who has the tuner license.

tuner = The ability to tune your own car with out paying someone else to do it.

i thought the standard came without a cable ... and tuner came with the cable. $500 for standard....$200 to upgrade it to tuner and get a cable. still not sure exactly what i paid for besides the tune LOL

erkthejerk73 · 03-07-2012, 10:30 AM

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Osiris Flash Service - our mail-in service for our customers that wish to send their ECU to us for a one time recalibration.

Osiris Standard - Our PC based reflash system allowing the user to flash their ECU with customized tuning provided by UpRev or an UpRev Pro Tuner. Osiris Standard includes Cipher and comes with three eTune updates providing custom tuning for your vehicle.

Osiris Tuner - For the do it yourself types who are familiar and capable of tuning their own vehicles or the enthusiast looking for a better alternative to Stand-Alone ECU and Piggyback systems.

direct from uprev.com

darionlear · 03-07-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by erkthejerk73

direct from uprev.com

Both come with cable. I'm considering the tuner... I have standard now

sixpax · 03-07-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by erkthejerk73

direct from uprev.com

hmmmm....so i should have gotten a cable ?

sixpax · 03-07-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by darionlear

Both come with cable. I'm considering the tuner... I have standard now

so i should have gotten a cable if i purchased the standard from a place ?

Speedy · 03-07-2012, 10:35 AM

How are tuning these things? Anyone doing it themselves? I've got some experience with this stuff, but wondered what folks are seeing here.

Does it save the stock tune somewhere so if you muck it up you can flash back?

erkthejerk73 · 03-07-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedy

How are tuning these things? Anyone doing it themselves? I've got some experience with this stuff, but wondered what folks are seeing here.

Does it save the stock tune somewhere so if you muck it up you can flash back?

i saw your thread about tuning a few weeks ago, id say you know a bit about it. Give it a try and make a write up about it, i have read a few books about ECU Fuel injection tuning, but i dont want to fawk my own car up in the process. Yes you can always flash back to OEM tune.

erkthejerk73 · 03-07-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sixpax

so i should have gotten a cable if i purchased the standard from a place ?

yes the ciphier cable.

sixpax · 03-07-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by erkthejerk73

yes the ciphier cable.

my bad i just looked at my bill and what I actually paid for was $300 for the Flash Service ... I thought I had the Osiris Basic (500) ... so should that have come with a cable or no ?

Bigjoe · 03-12-2012, 06:27 PM

When you buy It from a shop and they tune your car you do not get the cipher cable, when you buy direct from uprev you get the cable and etunes but no actual dyno tune. The tuner version is the same cipher cable but it has different code that unlocks the features that let you modify your own tune. You also get a back to stock rom file with the tuner version that lets you flash the ecu back to stock and use the license on a different vehicle or sell it to someone else.

I'm selling a tuner cable with license in the marketplace for a
Good discount, feel free to pm/email me with any questions. Might be able to save you some money

wstar · 03-12-2012, 06:42 PM

If you buy direct from UpRev themselves, you get an actual license of your own and you always get a cable.

Standard lets you basically load/unload whole flashes made by others, run Cipher diagnostics, etc. You can't custom-tune anything yourself, not even per-map rev limits. The flashes would be made by UpRev themselves (via the eTune service based on your Cipher datalogs), or by a licensed UpRev tuner company on a dyno.

Tuner gives the ability to tweak almost* everything yourself. You can still use a professional tuner, but you can also tweak the tunes they give you and custom set your 5 maps, etc, instead of asking them to do it every time.

You don't have to buy a license/cable of your own at all though. You can just go to an UpRev-authorized tuner shop, and they'll dyno tune your car and load UpRev-based software with the maps you choose, and charge you some standard fees through their own shop. In this scenario, you go back to the tuner for any changes (they should provide you a binary copy as well, in case you want a different/future UpRev shop to work from their baseline).

* - re: "almost": the Tuner license can't disable NATS (the anti-theft system in the car), and is married to a single VIN. Whereas the Pro license that dyno-tuning shops have can program multiple customer car VINs and can disable NATS if requested.

wstar · 03-12-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigjoe

I'm selling a tuner cable with license in the marketplace for a

I think the tuner cable is married to your VIN. UpRev might be able to fix that via a license-file update post-sale, but I'd double check.

03-07-2012, 07:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
niznizbobo Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: australia Posts: 41 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	Uprev!!! Hello everyone here, I am new with the tune stuff, and I am looking to buy the Osiris, but not sure which one to buy! The standard one or the tuner one? Can anyone here explain what is the difference between them? And which one should I get. Thanks.

03-07-2012, 08:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
fxroar Track Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 525 Drives: '10 40th Anniversary Rep Power: 16	Standard gets you: Up to 5 Maps on cruise control equipped vehicles Idle RPM Speed Limiter Electronic Throttle Control to achieve Wide Open Throttle at all speeds. Rev Limiter DTC disable AFR Targets Fuel Compensation Ignition Timing Advance Cam Phasing for equipped vehicles. Tuner gets you: 5 Maps on cruise control equipped vehicles Idle RPM Speed Limiter Electronic Throttle Control to achieve Wide Open Throttle at all speeds. Rev Limiter DTC disable AFR Targets Fuel Compensation Ignition Timing Advance Cam Phasing for equipped vehicles. MAF transfer function Cranking Enrichment and Ignition Advance Injector Latency K Fuel Multiplier Intake Temp Calculated Load vs. RPM Minimum Effective Injector Pulse Width Definitely Tuner if you got the extra cash. Much more option to crank up performance. Both will still require $250-$300 worth of dyno time. Good luck! __________________ Fast Intentions / K&N / Blox / Evo-R / Uprev / Forgestar 19" F14 / R40 / NST / Z1 / SDCE / H&R / Kenwood / ISS Forged 20" FM10R

03-12-2012, 06:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	If you buy direct from UpRev themselves, you get an actual license of your own and you always get a cable. Standard lets you basically load/unload whole flashes made by others, run Cipher diagnostics, etc. You can't custom-tune anything yourself, not even per-map rev limits. The flashes would be made by UpRev themselves (via the eTune service based on your Cipher datalogs), or by a licensed UpRev tuner company on a dyno. Tuner gives the ability to tweak almost* everything yourself. You can still use a professional tuner, but you can also tweak the tunes they give you and custom set your 5 maps, etc, instead of asking them to do it every time. You don't have to buy a license/cable of your own at all though. You can just go to an UpRev-authorized tuner shop, and they'll dyno tune your car and load UpRev-based software with the maps you choose, and charge you some standard fees through their own shop. In this scenario, you go back to the tuner for any changes (they should provide you a binary copy as well, in case you want a different/future UpRev shop to work from their baseline). * - re: "almost": the Tuner license can't disable NATS (the anti-theft system in the car), and is married to a single VIN. Whereas the Pro license that dyno-tuning shops have can program multiple customer car VINs and can disable NATS if requested. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

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Bigjoe Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: portland Posts: 17 Drives: 2011 370z Rep Power: 13	When you buy It from a shop and they tune your car you do not get the cipher cable, when you buy direct from uprev you get the cable and etunes but no actual dyno tune. The tuner version is the same cipher cable but it has different code that unlocks the features that let you modify your own tune. You also get a back to stock rom file with the tuner version that lets you flash the ecu back to stock and use the license on a different vehicle or sell it to someone else. I'm selling a tuner cable with license in the marketplace for a Good discount, feel free to pm/email me with any questions. Might be able to save you some money