370z vs 911 ZO6 S4!!!

GingaBreadMan · 08-17-2009, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

Obviously, seeing as to how a Grand National and M5 are deserving of that title.

What in the hell kind of "racing" was this? You sound like a 14 year-old who just conjured something up after watching 2 Fast 2 Furious. And, gee...what a shock! It was aired on USA tonight.

"I had da pedal to the floor a lot."

Now, if you'll excuse me, I must tend to my fuel maps. Its got a nasty hole which is why my car is unloading in 3rd.

My bad 4 not treating this like 1 of my essays from college. I didn't know I was being graded. I'm writing as if I was telling my boys a story. If this is 2 low brow 4 u maybe u should be on a forum discussing quantum physics. M5's and Grand Nationals may not be technically true sports cars, but they make big power. Muscle cars have to be included. That Grand National is making 600hp.

JoeD · 08-17-2009, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GingaBreadMan

My bad 4 not treating this like 1 of my essays from college.

You would have a hard time convincing me you attended college, let alone graduated.

I digress...care to elaborate on the context of this "racing?" I've been road-racing competitively with NASA and have participated in almost all local HPDE events for over 6 years. Never have I once experienced anything even similar to what you described. Regardless of your stellar grammar and sentence-structure, nothing in your story makes sense to anyone who actually has been in such an environment nor will I begin to explain why.

grahfz · 08-17-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GingaBreadMan

My bad 4 not treating this like 1 of my essays from college. I didn't know I was being graded. I'm writing as if I was telling my boys a story. If this is 2 low brow 4 u maybe u should be on a forum discussing quantum physics. M5's and Grand Nationals may not be technically true sports cars, but they make big power. Muscle cars have to be included. That Grand National is making 600hp.

Go drive an e39 m5 and tell me it's not a sports car. Or that it's not one of the best cars ever built.

JoeD · 08-17-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by grahfz

Go drive an e39 m5 and tell me it's not a sports car.

I have. I will tell you that it's not a sports-car. If you think so, then your definition of a "sports-car" needs revision.

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Originally Posted by grahfz

Or that it's not one of the best cars ever built.

I wouldn't quite go that far, but yes...it is a great car. The entire E39 run was a huge success.

grahfz · 08-17-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

I have. I will tell you that it's not a sports-car. If you think so, then your definition of a "sports-car" needs revision.

Oh, you're right. Sports cars can survive more than a few laps around a real track. The e39 was a blast around road atlanta.

bboypuertoroc · 08-17-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

I have. I will tell you that it's not a sports-car. If you think so, then your definition of a "sports-car" needs revision.

What's your definition of a sports car?

JoeD · 08-17-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

What's your definition of a sports car?

-Front-engine/rear-drive (although there are few MR and RR exceptions)
-2-seater
-Standard transmission
-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority

grahfz · 08-17-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

-Front-engine/rear-drive (although there are few MR and RR exceptions)
-2-seater
-Standard transmission
-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority

With the exception of the 2 seater part, sounds like an M5 to me.

JoeD · 08-17-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by grahfz

With the exception of the 2 seater part, sounds like an M5 to me.

The E39 was a purpose-built chassis? Wow...that's news to me. I didn't know a mid-'90s 528i was a sports-car. Next time you see a clueless soccer-mom driving one, say "Hey! Nice sports-car!"

The M5 is a performance luxury-sedan. Of course, how a car is classified and what defines a "sports-car" is a never-ending discussion due to its highly subjective nature. Thankfully, the traits I cited above make for the most widely accepted guidelines.

If an M5 is a sports-car, then so is a 300C SRT-8 with a manual swapped in. Or a G8. Or a Cayenne GTS.

bboypuertoroc · 08-19-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

-Front-engine/rear-drive (although there are few MR and RR exceptions)
-2-seater
-Standard transmission
-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority

Here's the actual dictionary definition...

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Main Entry: sports car
Function: noun
Date: 1928
: a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving

... but there's a saying that best describes the definition of sports car:

"Ask 5 different people the definition of sports car and you'll get 5 different answers"