370z vs 911 ZO6 S4!!!

grahfz · 08-17-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GingaBreadMan

My bad 4 not treating this like 1 of my essays from college. I didn't know I was being graded. I'm writing as if I was telling my boys a story. If this is 2 low brow 4 u maybe u should be on a forum discussing quantum physics. M5's and Grand Nationals may not be technically true sports cars, but they make big power. Muscle cars have to be included. That Grand National is making 600hp.

Go drive an e39 m5 and tell me it's not a sports car. Or that it's not one of the best cars ever built.

JoeD · 08-17-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by grahfz

Go drive an e39 m5 and tell me it's not a sports car.

I have. I will tell you that it's not a sports-car. If you think so, then your definition of a "sports-car" needs revision.

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Originally Posted by grahfz

Or that it's not one of the best cars ever built.

I wouldn't quite go that far, but yes...it is a great car. The entire E39 run was a huge success.

grahfz · 08-17-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

I have. I will tell you that it's not a sports-car. If you think so, then your definition of a "sports-car" needs revision.

Oh, you're right. Sports cars can survive more than a few laps around a real track. The e39 was a blast around road atlanta.

bboypuertoroc · 08-17-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

I have. I will tell you that it's not a sports-car. If you think so, then your definition of a "sports-car" needs revision.

What's your definition of a sports car?

JoeD · 08-17-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

What's your definition of a sports car?

-Front-engine/rear-drive (although there are few MR and RR exceptions)
-2-seater
-Standard transmission
-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority

grahfz · 08-17-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

-Front-engine/rear-drive (although there are few MR and RR exceptions)
-2-seater
-Standard transmission
-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority

With the exception of the 2 seater part, sounds like an M5 to me.

JoeD · 08-17-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by grahfz

With the exception of the 2 seater part, sounds like an M5 to me.

The E39 was a purpose-built chassis? Wow...that's news to me. I didn't know a mid-'90s 528i was a sports-car. Next time you see a clueless soccer-mom driving one, say "Hey! Nice sports-car!"

The M5 is a performance luxury-sedan. Of course, how a car is classified and what defines a "sports-car" is a never-ending discussion due to its highly subjective nature. Thankfully, the traits I cited above make for the most widely accepted guidelines.

If an M5 is a sports-car, then so is a 300C SRT-8 with a manual swapped in. Or a G8. Or a Cayenne GTS.

Asheth · 08-17-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

The E39 was a purpose-built chassis? Wow...that's news to me. I didn't know a mid-'90s 528i was a sports-car. Next time you see a clueless soccer-mom driving one, say "Hey! Nice sports-car!"

The M5 is a performance luxury-sedan. Of course, how a car is classified and what defines a "sports-car" is a never-ending discussion due to its highly subjective nature. Thankfully, the traits I cited above make for the most widely accepted guidelines.

If an M5 is a sports-car, then so is a 300C SRT-8 with a manual swapped in. Or a G8. Or a Cayenne GTS.

If I am not mistaken anytime you M-package any BMW you always get performance boosting additions to include suspension. 300C SRT-8 is what just a HP boost and some cool paint jobs and decals. along with the G8-GXP

bboypuertoroc · 08-19-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

-Front-engine/rear-drive (although there are few MR and RR exceptions)
-2-seater
-Standard transmission
-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority

Here's the actual dictionary definition...

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Main Entry: sports car
Function: noun
Date: 1928
: a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving

... but there's a saying that best describes the definition of sports car:

"Ask 5 different people the definition of sports car and you'll get 5 different answers"