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Originally Posted by Dwnshift What's your diff temp? Hi - are you involved with the 370z running in the continental tire series? I don't know what my diff temp is...thanks

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Old 07-11-2012, 10:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What's your diff temp?
Hi - are you involved with the 370z running in the continental tire series?

I don't know what my diff temp is...thanks for the advice on that. I am running a quaife diff.

So I should change the diff oil how often and what would your recommend I use for oil?

Also, how much cooler will the car run with the 34 versus the 25 row setrab? any experience comparing the two?

Anyone have 35 row they want to sell?

I have a time attack event coming up at mosport in a couple of weeks and want to make sure the car runs as cool as possible.

Also on another note, I tried the carbotech xp12 up front and xp10 in the rear based on some advice from z1 motorsports....bad combination...the rears overheat and brake balance goes all to the front. xp12 all around will be a better option.
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So I should change the diff oil how often and what would your recommend I use for oil?
If you drive the car fairly hard I would change it after 2-3 track events. Street driving is far less demanding, so about 5000 miles of street. I've used Motul, Redline and even Royal Purple in the rear end. I was using 80W90 but have switched to 75W140 to maintain viscosity at higher temps.

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I have a time attack event coming up at mosport in a couple of weeks and want to make sure the car runs as cool as possible.
COMSCC? What car class are you registered for? Mosport is a heavy throttle use track so you'll want the most cooling you can get. Wish I was going.

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Also on another note, I tried the carbotech xp12 up front and xp10 in the rear based on some advice from z1 motorsports....bad combination...the rears overheat and brake balance goes all to the front. xp12 all around will be a better option.
Are you sure? That seems unlikely that you are overheating the rears. Have you used temperature paint to see what rotor temps you have? I had ABS locking up the rear wheels very easily when I used the same compound all around, maybe you could jump up to XP16 if you are running on R-comp tires.
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If you drive the car fairly hard I would change it after 2-3 track events. Street driving is far less demanding, so about 5000 miles of street. I've used Motul, Redline and even Royal Purple in the rear end. I was using 80W90 but have switched to 75W140 to maintain viscosity at higher temps.
Thanks I am going to put 75w140 in today then.


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COMSCC? What car class are you registered for? Mosport is a heavy throttle use track so you'll want the most cooling you can get. Wish I was going.
Ontario Time Attack Series (OTA). I am in the GT1 class. Yeah I have been going to mosport on and off now for about 20 years. It is by far my favorite track. This is the first time with the 370z. My previous cars were a gt3 and a c6 z06 and a long time ago - miata I think the track record in gt1 is in the 1:35 range, so we will see how I do.

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Are you sure? That seems unlikely that you are overheating the rears. Have you used temperature paint to see what rotor temps you have? I had ABS locking up the rear wheels very easily when I used the same compound all around, maybe you could jump up to XP16 if you are running on R-comp tires.
Yeah, I am sure . This was happening on a fairly small technical track (Toronto Motorsport Track) with not much time for cooling brakes. When I had the x12 on the front and x10 on the back the balance was ok at the beginning of the run, but towards the end of the run the front tires would lock up too easily because the rears were no longer applying enough braking force.

I happened to have some x10 front's so I put those on and the car maintained a better braking balance through the run, but I could not brake as hard without feeling the front brakes give up towards the end of the the braking zone at the end of the longest straight.

I use to run x12/x10 on my c6 z06 without any issues, but that car is lighter than the 370z and it does have brake cooling vents for the rear.

I created my own brake ducting for the 370 because the stillen kit was not available at the beginning of the season. I will be ordering the stillen kit just to get the mounting plate for the rotor so that the hose will pump air more towards the center of the rotor. The solution I created involved cutting a hole in the dust cover and riveting a flange to it. But the air is pushed more on the outer portion of the rotor than the center.
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Ontario Time Attack Series (OTA). I am in the GT1 class. Yeah I have been going to mosport on and off now for about 20 years. It is by far my favorite track. This is the first time with the 370z. My previous cars were a gt3 and a c6 z06 and a long time ago - miata I think the track record in gt1 is in the 1:35 range, so we will see how I do.
Those times are similar to our (COMSCC) current class records for STGT and SPB set back in 08. We fully expect the records to fall this time around as cars have got a lot faster, and the last couple of times we have been there it was cold and rainy. So if you feel like doing back to back time trials at Mosport you are more than welcome to sign up
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Yeah, I am sure . This was happening on a fairly small technical track (Toronto Motorsport Track) with not much time for cooling brakes. When I had the x12 on the front and x10 on the back the balance was ok at the beginning of the run, but towards the end of the run the front tires would lock up too easily because the rears were no longer applying enough braking force.

I happened to have some x10 front's so I put those on and the car maintained a better braking balance through the run, but I could not brake as hard without feeling the front brakes give up towards the end of the the braking zone at the end of the longest straight.

I use to run x12/x10 on my c6 z06 without any issues, but that car is lighter than the 370z and it does have brake cooling vents for the rear.

I created my own brake ducting for the 370 because the stillen kit was not available at the beginning of the season. I will be ordering the stillen kit just to get the mounting plate for the rotor so that the hose will pump air more towards the center of the rotor. The solution I created involved cutting a hole in the dust cover and riveting a flange to it. But the air is pushed more on the outer portion of the rotor than the center.
I find it interesting that you are overheating the rear first because I normally get the reverse effect. I tend to overheat the front pads and then the rear starts to lock up. The Stillen brake ducts certainly help, but they are a little undersized to be ideal. The effect is positive, just wish they were 3" and not 2" as it would be over twice the air volume.
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Those times are similar to our (COMSCC) current class records for STGT and SPB set back in 08. We fully expect the records to fall this time around as cars have got a lot faster, and the last couple of times we have been there it was cold and rainy. So if you feel like doing back to back time trials at Mosport you are more than welcome to sign up
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I find it interesting that you are overheating the rear first because I normally get the reverse effect. I tend to overheat the front pads and then the rear starts to lock up. The Stillen brake ducts certainly help, but they are a little undersized to be ideal. The effect is positive, just wish they were 3" and not 2" as it would be over twice the air volume.
Thanks for the invite...I don't think my car could handle 4 straight days of track abuse . But maybe I will drop by.

I put 3" hose on my car. Maybe I won't get the stillen kit then
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changed the diff oil today on a my quaife - the oil smelled really burnt Smelled terrible.

It had 5 track days on that diff. I will be changing much more frequently and also will be investing in the GTM diff cooling kit.

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