don't understand why only 5 moded Z's in the 12's ???

370Zsteve · 12-11-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

There are also far more mustangs/camaros out there than Z's.

yup, and far more 350's than 370's. And let's face it, the profile of a Mustang owner is much more prone to being a stoplight racer than a refined Z owner.

Right Red_Zed and Steve?

andre12031948 · 12-11-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

yup, and far more 350's than 370's. And let's face it, the profile of a Mustang owner is much more prone to being a stoplight racer than a refined Z owner.

Right Red_Zed and Steve?

So with all your mods, what have you done? dude.

370Zsteve · 12-11-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948

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So with all your mods, what have you done? dude.

SCCA. Lime Rock and Watkins Glen. For ten years.

My Z is not modded for racing. Doesn't even have a modded suspension, dude.

Z eliminator · 12-11-2011, 11:30 AM

You called it like it is. Its really hard to get the Z down the 1/4 mile in a quick time.
There are so many things that can go wrong.
launching the car is aways a hard thing to do depening on the track conditions or spiing your tires between the 3 to 4 shift can be gut wrenching moment if the tire spin.
I probally had 75 runs befoe i got the 12.42 in the Z and got it right.
every thing from a almost hit the wall 21.7 second run to a 2.9, 60 ft time,
there was one pass where i had a easy low 12.3 run and i hit the rev limiter at 8100 in 4th gear. Or you have a great 60 ft and i hit the limiter in 2nd gear. I also have to keep ajusting my fuel curve as a 10 degree swing in temp will slow the car down.
OIl temps just kill this car. I have to lauch at 80 to 85 C. for a quick time. if you launch at 100 c. it will run 3 to 4th's slower if not more.
It is very hard to get a good time.
The reason that i do not do the road racing is that " i do not know how to drive on a race course."
Its just not in me and i do not want to smash the car.
I never race on the street and the car is way faster on the street than the track.
Its really funny when a guy brings a hot mustang to the track and he runs a 13.5 or slower. Same for the camaros and dodge's. 13.5 to 14.2 all day they run.
They are just in awe of my Z. Especially when they see that's it a 210 cubic inch V6.
all motor.

Z

andre12031948 · 12-11-2011, 11:37 AM

It's not that easy going 1/4 mile in a straight line. It's easy to say "I'm not really trying, it's just for fun" That's what piiissesss off guys that do make the effort, & do succeed...... Well said Z eliminator.

Skeeterbop · 12-11-2011, 11:50 AM

I know I'm not that quick due to a number of things, with the main thing being that I'm still learning. It also doesn't help that the local drag strip is crap. They say it is prepped, but i still think it is slick as ice. I know for a fact that it is uphill. and it is at almost 4k feet elevation. All that being said my first time was horrible, my second time was I had a 3 second improvement (my first time really was that bad). I don't plan on going out again until it gets back above 50*. Currently my best is a 15.3, my friend who also has a 370 has a best of a 15.2. I have done a few things to my car since my last time out but i don't expect a huge difference in times. What I want to do is start doing road courses though. That is where the real fun is for me, the drag strip is ok, but I don't find it as exciting.
As far as the not needing any practice/instruction for road track racing, I hope that was sarcasm, at least that is how I read it. Road courses take every bit as much time and practice to be good at it as drag racing does. They are two completely different animals.

KaienZ34 · 12-11-2011, 11:52 AM

Why would it make you mad what other people do with their cars??

Methodical4u · 12-11-2011, 02:52 PM

Saying you're going to hop in an identical car and beat a man of 10 years of racing experience is like saying you're going to hop into a boxing ring with a 10 year pro and KO him... like I said... you're dumb.

andre12031948 · 12-11-2011, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u

Saying you're going to hop in an identical car and beat a man of 10 years of racing experience is like saying you're going to hop into a boxing ring with a 10 year pro and KO him... like I said... you're dumb.

I'm looking at the odds. I'm really, really a good driver. I've learned that many Z owners(not all) are all talk. 10 years of track driving, may mean JUST driving.

Methodical4u · 12-11-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948

I'm looking at the odds. I'm really, really a good driver. I've learned that many Z owners(not all) are all talk. 10 years of track driving, may mean JUST driving.

tell you a little secret everyone thinks their a good driver until they get on a track

andre12031948 · 12-11-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u

tell you a little secret everyone thinks their a good driver until they get on a track

I've been wrong before. Your last point makes sense.

jnaut · 12-11-2011, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u

tell you a little secret everyone thinks their a good driver until they get on a track

I know I am a good driver, in a straight line and on a road course.

andre12031948 · 12-11-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jnaut

I know I am a good driver, in a straight line and on a road course.

m4a1mustang · 12-11-2011, 03:02 PM

This thread has made my brain asplode.

Methodical4u · 12-11-2011, 05:28 PM

The one thing I don't really get is that the Z can run a 13.3 in pretty much any magazine and as we all know some high 12's stock.

If one has ART or LTH's, a good CBE, CAI and tune I don't know why we don't see more 12.5's or 12.7 times without using rear gears.

The only thing I can think of is that even with my ART pipes and the F.I. exhaust I can pretty easily spin in 2nd without getting on it real hard.. so I can imagine on a slick track with high temps it wouldn't work... but as said, not everyone posts their times either.

12-11-2011, 11:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,660 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 21	You called it like it is. Its really hard to get the Z down the 1/4 mile in a quick time. There are so many things that can go wrong. launching the car is aways a hard thing to do depening on the track conditions or spiing your tires between the 3 to 4 shift can be gut wrenching moment if the tire spin. I probally had 75 runs befoe i got the 12.42 in the Z and got it right. every thing from a almost hit the wall 21.7 second run to a 2.9, 60 ft time, there was one pass where i had a easy low 12.3 run and i hit the rev limiter at 8100 in 4th gear. Or you have a great 60 ft and i hit the limiter in 2nd gear. I also have to keep ajusting my fuel curve as a 10 degree swing in temp will slow the car down. OIl temps just kill this car. I have to lauch at 80 to 85 C. for a quick time. if you launch at 100 c. it will run 3 to 4th's slower if not more. It is very hard to get a good time. The reason that i do not do the road racing is that " i do not know how to drive on a race course." Its just not in me and i do not want to smash the car. I never race on the street and the car is way faster on the street than the track. Its really funny when a guy brings a hot mustang to the track and he runs a 13.5 or slower. Same for the camaros and dodge's. 13.5 to 14.2 all day they run. They are just in awe of my Z. Especially when they see that's it a 210 cubic inch V6. all motor. Z __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

12-11-2011, 11:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
Skeeterbop A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Age: 42 Posts: 1,440 Drives: 2011 GM 370 base SP Rep Power: 18	I know I'm not that quick due to a number of things, with the main thing being that I'm still learning. It also doesn't help that the local drag strip is crap. They say it is prepped, but i still think it is slick as ice. I know for a fact that it is uphill. and it is at almost 4k feet elevation. All that being said my first time was horrible, my second time was I had a 3 second improvement (my first time really was that bad). I don't plan on going out again until it gets back above 50*. Currently my best is a 15.3, my friend who also has a 370 has a best of a 15.2. I have done a few things to my car since my last time out but i don't expect a huge difference in times. What I want to do is start doing road courses though. That is where the real fun is for me, the drag strip is ok, but I don't find it as exciting. As far as the not needing any practice/instruction for road track racing, I hope that was sarcasm, at least that is how I read it. Road courses take every bit as much time and practice to be good at it as drag racing does. They are two completely different animals. __________________ Srenity: "Yeah no rest needed to spread the love when your 20 that's for sure...."

12-11-2011, 11:52 AM	#7 (permalink)
KaienZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LA. not L.a. Posts: 21,652 Drives: Z34 Tour/Sport Rep Power: 179	Why would it make you mad what other people do with their cars?? __________________ *"These Violent Delights Have Violent Ends"* http://www.the370z.com/members/kaienz34-albums-z34.html

12-11-2011, 03:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	This thread has made my brain asplode. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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andre12031948 Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: monticello new york 127 Posts: 1,095 Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t Rep Power: 0	It's not that easy going 1/4 mile in a straight line. It's easy to say "I'm not really trying, it's just for fun" That's what piiissesss off guys that do make the effort, & do succeed...... Well said Z eliminator.

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Methodical4u A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,393 Drives: 11 370 6mt pw w/sp Rep Power: 18	Saying you're going to hop in an identical car and beat a man of 10 years of racing experience is like saying you're going to hop into a boxing ring with a 10 year pro and KO him... like I said... you're dumb.

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Methodical4u A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,393 Drives: 11 370 6mt pw w/sp Rep Power: 18	The one thing I don't really get is that the Z can run a 13.3 in pretty much any magazine and as we all know some high 12's stock. If one has ART or LTH's, a good CBE, CAI and tune I don't know why we don't see more 12.5's or 12.7 times without using rear gears. The only thing I can think of is that even with my ART pipes and the F.I. exhaust I can pretty easily spin in 2nd without getting on it real hard.. so I can imagine on a slick track with high temps it wouldn't work... but as said, not everyone posts their times either.