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Originally Posted by DTHPROOF The ls1 is rated 325 but usually puts that down to the tires. My friend's stock 02 ss went 12.6 @109 stock to the paper air

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Old 09-16-2011, 06:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The ls1 is rated 325 but usually puts that down to the tires. My friend's stock 02 ss went 12.6 @109 stock to the paper air filter. My SS went 12.9 @109 (2.1 60') and the op's 370 went 13.6 @105. I'm not dogging the VQ by any means (this is your site after all) I'm just speaking from my experience. Stay tuned guys; race is in 2 days and his 370 got tuned this morning.

I would fully agree with this although 12.6 seems a bit optimistic. The Camaro and TransAm where severly under-rated from factory. It's actually accepted that these cars came with 350hp or more at the crank with the factory. As quoted I've seen stock LS1's put down 310-320hp AT THE WHEELS. Most I've seen at the track run 13.3-13.5 in stockish form (at this age of car tires and wheels are changed on most of them). In my experience the LS1 is quite capable of hanging with if not beating a Z, but it will come down to the driver and track. The better the track prep and better the driver the better the LS1 will do. From a roll I would say it's even to about 100mph and after that the Z starts to walk away slowly; I won't say how I know this though. Also the LS1 I had most experience with was an automatic; I'm sure a 6-speed would do better.
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Hey guys just an update. I am home and all the mods to my car respond very well and she rips. Issue is when my buddies took the car out the best they can do is 305 after the tune. I don't have the dyno sheet in front of me at the moment. The race is tomorrow though. My buddies talked to the speed shop and they said every time they tried to change the timing the computer would change it back. I am assuming that has to do with cracking the VVEL.
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Hey guys just an update. I am home and all the mods to my car respond very well and she rips. Issue is when my buddies took the car out the best they can do is 305 after the tune. I don't have the dyno sheet in front of me at the moment. The race is tomorrow though. My buddies talked to the speed shop and they said every time they tried to change the timing the computer would change it back. I am assuming that has to do with cracking the VVEL.
Perhaps the dyno just reads lower than others.
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no one has cracked the VVEL yet as far as I know... are they experienced with Z's?
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Ya they have done a few Z's already and they said that this is the norm. for our car b/c of the timing issue. I mean she rips down low I haven't gotten on her too much yet tomorrow will be the final test when I take her to the track. As soon as I found out who/where the dyno sheet I'll post it up. From what I have seen on the site though, our car isn't very good on numbers but still produces on the track so I am shooting for a 12.7
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Ya they have done a few Z's already and they said that this is the norm. for our car b/c of the timing issue. I mean she rips down low I haven't gotten on her too much yet tomorrow will be the final test when I take her to the track. As soon as I found out who/where the dyno sheet I'll post it up. From what I have seen on the site though, our car isn't very good on numbers but still produces on the track so I am shooting for a 12.7
That seems quite reasonable... obviously the fastest time was 12.24, but that was with 4.08 gears and i'm not sure what other mods he had that you don't.. maybe none? Idk, but with a really good launch and great track conditions maybe a 12.5 would even be possible?

Are you all doing several runs against each other or just a little warming up and then just a single race?
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so did we have a race or what??
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Hey guys!! Okay no vids b/c I forgot my camera, not to mention we didn't even get to go against each other. It was a horrible day at the track for everyone that went, the track just wasn't prepped properly. The best I could do in my car was a 13.9 which obviously is bad b/c I beat that stock. I let my buddy Jamie drive and the best he could get was 13.6 at 102. Josh's car ran a 13.2 and when Jamie drove it she went 12.9 at 113 I believe. So ya last night was def. a bust guys sorry to build it up but nobody at the track was doing anything impressive. Not to mention we got rained out 2 hours into the track while I was in the staging lane going for another pass. So hopefully while I am home we can get this going again. Thanks for checking in.
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Yep neither did what they were supposed to do, the camaro is faster though. Ryan will just hace to get some seat time in the Z I think itll run high 12s. I got a 13.6 out of the z @ 102 but track prep was horrible and it had a 2.3 60 foot. I got one pass in the SS and it ran a 12.9@114 2.25 60' but I left the t/c on DOH! All in all we gad a good time and the z will be out next week with d/r's
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I love my 114 trapping car! Good time Ryan! You'll get it faster with seat time.
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Thanks! That's going through the traps in 3rd. I shift at 6200rpm but my limiter is set at 6900 so it's just a matter of staying in third. I hope it goes 116 with better air.
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