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V8Killer 07-21-2011 09:17 PM

Need some help for a Z vs 2000 Camaro showdown
 
Alright guys this is the thing. My buddy has a 2000 camaro with exhaust and a cam. The car is expected to have 380-400whp. His car is expected to be a mid 12 sec car. Now his launches average 2.2 and up for his 60fter. His car is about 200lbs heavier than my vehicle stock. The big factor, my buddy is 400lbs himself.

Now to my car. As of right now my baseline dyno is 285whp stock. Parts that will be installed are F.I. LTH, TDX CBE 18"resonators, Stillen UD pulley, oil cooler, g3 intake, NST overdrive alternator pulley, JWT clutch and flywheel combo. Tires are going to be RE-11's. 265/35F 285/25R on 19"Rays. Now as of about 3 weeks ago I am down to 180. The aftermarket parts will drop about 48lbs off the car. My 60fters are not the best either seeing as I have only driven at the track twice ever in my life. I think my best was a 2.1

I know I have an uphill battle but am I missing anything to help me out in this situation?

FL 4Motion 07-22-2011 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 1224530)
Alright guys this is the thing. My buddy has a 2000 camaro with exhaust and a cam. The car is expected to have 380-400whp. His car is expected to be a mid 12 sec car. Now his launches average 2.2 and up for his 60fter. His car is about 200lbs lighter than my vehicle stock. The big factor, my buddy is 400lbs himself.

Now to my car. As of right now my baseline dyno is 285whp stock. Parts that will be installed are F.I. LTH, TDX CBE 18"resonators, Stillen UD puelly, oil cooler, g3 intake, NST overdrive alternator pulley, JWT clutch and flywheel combo. Tires are going to be RE-11's. 265/35F 285/25R on 19"Rays. Now as of about 3 weeks ago I am down to 180. The aftermarket parts will drop about 48lbs off the car. My 60fters are not the best either seeing as I have only driven at the track twice ever in my life. I think my best was a 2.1

I know I have an uphill battle but am I missing anything to help me out in this situation?

/\ turbos or a S/c. j/k, well not really but if you want to make it more competitive/really increase your odds of winning, get the 4.08 gears. Sounds like you've got all the bolt on mods done. With an equal 60ft, and with what you've listed, I think it could go either way with an edge going to your friend honestly.

V8Killer 07-22-2011 04:44 AM

Ya I feel the edge obviously is in his favor but with the weight difference he is heavier. Right now he is sitting 600lbs heavier than me so I am hoping that plays into my favor.

FL 4Motion 07-22-2011 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 1224762)
Ya I feel the edge obviously is in his favor but with the weight difference he is heavier. Right now he is sitting 600lbs heavier than me so I am hoping that plays into my favor.

good luck man, and let us know how it goes. :tup:

chuckd05 07-22-2011 10:23 PM

Drag Radials will cut .5 off your time most likely... Thats your best shot... You sure he has 380-400 though?

V8Killer 07-23-2011 12:30 AM

No it is a rough estimate. I am not sure if he will dyno it. The guy he bought it from had two other modifications done to the vehicle but took them off so I am unsure and this is a number that my buddy and I came up with. My buddy is been in the car business for a few years and said he feels 370 out of the car and from driving it a mid 12 car. He said if I can get a good launch he won't be able to catch up. Right now I am looking at a nitrous kit. We will see what happens.

CBRich 07-23-2011 07:41 AM

He can "feel" 370? Can he come butt-dyno tune my car for me?

V8Killer 07-23-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 1226363)
He can "feel" 370? Can he come butt-dyno tune my car for me?

LOL Ya maybe, I know it sounds crazy but he has been in the racing scene for a long time and is usually on the money. I should make some money off him :tup:

chuckd05 07-26-2011 11:38 AM

Race him yet? Just do it. From a dig who ever launches better will win. But all things equal I say ull have a good shot at walking him.

But I say this going by my Zs speed. Not sure how quick stock Ish Zs are, mine wasn't stock for long. I forget haha

V8Killer 07-27-2011 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 1230854)
Race him yet? Just do it. From a dig who ever launches better will win. But all things equal I say ull have a good shot at walking him.

But I say this going by my Zs speed. Not sure how quick stock Ish Zs are, mine wasn't stock for long. I forget haha

Hey Chuck,

Nope not yet. I am still in Afghanistan. I get home mid Sept. The first weekend I am home we are going to the track so that gives me 3 days till the weekend to get used to driving my car with all the new mods. Does your Z have similar mods that mine will have shortly? For some reason I feel like I will walk him but I don't want to think that I like being the underdog.

chuckd05 07-27-2011 09:04 PM

I have just about every na bolt on and 4.08 fd

red6spd 07-27-2011 09:28 PM

Yea I dont think he is making 380-400whp with just those mods. Your gonna get your Z Tuned as well correct?

V8Killer 07-27-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1233743)
Yea I dont think he is making 380-400whp with just those mods. Your gonna get your Z Tuned as well correct?

O ya it will be tuned properly. I mean his other 2000SS was weak sauce with full bolt ons. Then again I dunno a cam can make a hell of a difference in those cars. I will say this his weight has to make a difference. His other 2000 SS was about 350whp and tq. I think the best he could do was a 13.4. When my buddy Jamie jumped in he got a 12.9. I am sure he had a decent 60fter too.

wh1te370z 07-28-2011 10:24 AM

red6spd he will most def make those numbers w that motor. those motors are crazy. my buddy has one in his 89 GTA they sell a kit thats heads and a cam and the car make around 550 rwhp (proven all over f-body forums and magizines), they are about 300rwhp stock.

As a referance to the OP. I did a run w a 2010 camaro SS (dont know if it was a stick or auto) and i took him by about maybe 2 cars? in a little over a 1/4 mile. on paper those cars are faster.

Your buddies BIGGEST problem is hooking up. I had a 95 Firebird that put around 350 to the wheels and i could barely get it to hook up with nitto DR and a some susp work, Shocks, springs, LCA, LCA relocators, and other ods and ends. His car also weights 400lbs more stock for stock. I think it should be a good race. If he hooks youll have a problem if he spins half of first gear or has a bad lanuch u got him. just my $.02

FL 4Motion 07-28-2011 10:42 PM

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