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Originally Posted by Shamu Supercharger and turbo kits for 370 Z technically bolt on. You lose. One series econo cars have some real flaws. I'd rather have a mildly boosted

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Old 03-15-2011, 09:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Supercharger and turbo kits for 370 Z technically bolt on. You lose. One series econo cars have some real flaws. I'd rather have a mildly boosted Z.
They don't. Some might call a Nissan badge a real flaw

When I had the Z, somebody actually told me they liked my Altima once when I was filling up. Yikes...

I'm pretty shocked at the animosity from this forum. One of your own (09 370z owner for over a year) leaves and gets another car and all of the sudden everybody gets all defensive over a positive review of a half-competing vehicle? I never attacked the Z...just said the 135 is much more tunable and that makes it fun for me. Unless you guys are going to have your 370 for the rest of your life, cut the crap. There are better cars. Even a 5.0 Mustang can kill a 370 on the track right? A Mustang! I honestly never thought I'd see the day, because I was always one of those "american cars are only fast in a straight line" people.

I wish the Z had a motor like the one I have in my 135 because it would pretty much be the perfect car, and I'd still have it. It doesn't, and for me, I prefer to have a DD that is comfortable, knows what torque is, and when I track it...minimal modifications should make it keep up with some substantially faster cars when stock. That is not the Z. That's why for me, the Z was not the right choice. It might be for you, and good luck.
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Sorry man, motor vs motor there is no way in helllll the 135 is better, not a chance. The only single or should I say "twin" reason the 135 is even note worthy or a contender in a way is because its twin turbo charged. Other than that, mod for mod(na vs na), turbo for turbo the 135 will get left. No animosity here, and about the 5.0, that motor is marvel, idk anyone on here thats not in tune with that. So when you say "a mustang?!?" This isn't your regular car, the NEW 5.0 "mustang" is nothing like the previous and will hand just about any car its *** on a platter
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They don't. Some might call a Nissan badge a real flaw

When I had the Z, somebody actually told me they liked my Altima once when I was filling up. Yikes...

I'm pretty shocked at the animosity from this forum. One of your own (09 370z owner for over a year) leaves and gets another car and all of the sudden everybody gets all defensive over a positive review of a half-competing vehicle? I never attacked the Z...just said the 135 is much more tunable and that makes it fun for me. Unless you guys are going to have your 370 for the rest of your life, cut the crap. There are better cars. Even a 5.0 Mustang can kill a 370 on the track right? A Mustang! I honestly never thought I'd see the day, because I was always one of those "american cars are only fast in a straight line" people.

I wish the Z had a motor like the one I have in my 135 because it would pretty much be the perfect car, and I'd still have it. It doesn't, and for me, I prefer to have a DD that is comfortable, knows what torque is, and when I track it...minimal modifications should make it keep up with some substantially faster cars when stock. That is not the Z. That's why for me, the Z was not the right choice. It might be for you, and good luck.
No defensiveness or animosity, just a better knowledge of both platforms than you.

The 1 series platform has some real suspension issues well known in the motorsports world. How many 1 series do you see racing in Grand Am? Or any other serious series? Teams have made assessment and have said no thanks to econo box suspension on this overweight car.

I havent met a track yet that doesnt put a premium on HP but given new Mustang holds nearly 100 hp advantage and a 370Z Nismo can equal it or even better a mustangs times on some tracks I think that is alone indicates handling superiority of the Z. Also very clear AX guys in US made pony cars dont want the Z to run in their classes - most of them say the Z has a suspension advantage they cant overcome. LOL!

135i is very nice little econo car but its overpriced by about $5K. Seems like your trying to justify the purchase to us? I can understand how you were seduced by nicer interior and turbo power, but the car falls flat on performance side for serious drivers like me. I spent plenty of time in the 135i and honestly can say I was impressed with it as a commute car but not as a track enthusiast car. Lots of people outside of the 370Z world concur with that opinion.

Can we close this thread now its sort of getting boring.
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No defensiveness or animosity, just a better knowledge of both platforms than you.

The 1 series platform has some real suspension issues well known in the motorsports world. How many 1 series do you see racing in Grand Am? Or any other serious series? Teams have made assessment and have said no thanks to econo box suspension on this overweight car.

I havent met a track yet that doesnt put a premium on HP but given new Mustang holds nearly 100 hp advantage and a 370Z Nismo can equal it or even better a mustangs times on some tracks I think that is alone indicates handling superiority of the Z. Also very clear AX guys in US made pony cars dont want the Z to run in their classes - most of them say the Z has a suspension advantage they cant overcome. LOL!

135i is very nice little econo car but its overpriced by about $5K. Seems like your trying to justify the purchase to us? I can understand how you were seduced by nicer interior and turbo power, but the car falls flat on performance side for serious drivers like me. I spent plenty of time in the 135i and honestly can say I was impressed with it as a commute car but not as a track enthusiast car. Lots of people outside of the 370Z world concur with that opinion.

Can we close this thread now its sort of getting boring.
You got me there...I can't argue with somebody who is a super important professional racecar driver. Get over yourself!! I have only said the 135 is great FOR ME because I use it as a DD and will be tracking it. It's fast as hell and is going to be a lot of fun on the track. No need to turn into a jacka55 over a former 370 owner simply sharing his experience with a different car. I'm excited to see just how it compares time-wise with the 370 on a racetrack. I wouldn't be surprised if the 370 can outhandle a lot of other cars (especially the 135) in a parking lot.

I really don't understand this at all. Never talked $%&# about the 370. I loved mine a lot, and still do. I don't think there is any question I didn't buy a little BMW because it was a track beast...I got it because I didn't want a fourth car, it's roomier, more comfortable, and better in traffic where I spend 99% of my time. It's just a bonus that a thousand dollars can get you what it takes ten thousand to in the Z.
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I don't think there is any question I didn't buy a little BMW because it was a track beast...I got it because I didn't want a fourth car, it's roomier, more comfortable, and better in traffic where I spend 99% of my time. .
Sounds like a logical choice for you. No argument there.
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Sounds like a logical choice for you. No argument there.
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Ah the truth comes out. Badging and gas station banter from strangers is what's really important in owning a performance car. I can see by the Range Rover you drive that status trumps performance and reliability (Range Rovers annually finish dead last in initial quality ratings - could have got a Cayenne S, Q7 4.2, or even an SRT8 Jeep if you wanted some fun in an SUV). Face it bro. You bought the cheapest Bimmer you could get your hands on. It's a girls car. You see them every day. Congrats you've got all that monster torque you're looking for to rip it out of red lights and on freeway ramps. I'm really not sure what you need all this torque for. Are you towing a boat with your 135? Maybe you can fit a Chevy crate motor into that beast. It'll be as reliable as those high boost maps without supporting mods. If all you wanted was torque you may want to look into a Turbo diesel super duty pick-up. I hear those make about 600 lb-ft and redline at 3500 rpm. Just slap a BMW badge on the hood so the people at the gas station know you're still cool. Or maybe a "My other car is a range rover" bumper sticker. Either one.
Yeah unfortunately a used 135i is all I can afford

I've had my Range Rover since 9/2007 and it has been in the dealer exactly 5 times...for oil changes. I clearly didn't buy a 5500lb SUV to be a speed demon. Next time when I buy a car I'll make sure it's up to your manly standards. Oh wait, of the 4 other people I know of with a 370...guess how many are guys? Two. One of them is a freaking stripper. Does that make it a chick car?
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