Don't turbo 1/3/5 series overheat if pushed hard, too? Not arguing, just asking.
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04-04-2011, 03:00 AM | #2 (permalink) | |
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I put my setups and lap times here too: Car / Anticipated Crank HP / Modifications / Best Lap / Top Track Speed: 370z / 332 bhp / R-Comps, HP+ pads / 1:50.7 / 119 mph 370z / ~355 bhp / hotchkis sways, R-Comps, HP+ pads, high flow cats, stillen exhaust / 1:46.5 / 124 mph 135i / 300 bhp (Probably more like 250) / M3 front sway / 1:57.4 / 114 mph 135i / ~370 bhp (Probably more like 320) / JB4 map 5, M3 front sway / 1:53.1 / 122 mph The above laps by the 1 had some serious heat soak. I also only had access to 91 octane, with 100 octane it can run more boost and the hp goes up to about 400 bhp. The car pulls much harder on the street than the 370 did, which was confirmed by some DynoMaster for Android runs showing sub 10 second 0-100 times, where the Z could do around 12 seconds. Unfortunately, it does need some sort of intake temp cooling to hold the higher HP on the track. No problem on the street when you only do bursts of acceleration, but on the track the intake temps really hurt the FI engine (just power wise). This did not seriously affect the driveability of the car, but it did have a very noticeable loss in power. Luckily, my methanol injection kit will not only dramatically reduce intake temps, but will effectively give 105+ octane gas as well, allowing for much more boost. I hope to find a 370z to race on the track once I get my R-Comps and meth kit installed, it should be a pretty close race if he has the same setup I used to have on my old Zizzle
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The car pulls much harder on the street than the 370 did, which was confirmed by some DynoMaster for Android runs showing sub 10 second 0-100 times, where the Z could do around 12 seconds. and about this^ thats a straight insult to real track heads
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04-04-2011, 02:33 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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yes and go into limp mode. C&D had it happen testing the 2 on the track. I think it was the G not the Z though
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04-04-2011, 10:09 AM | #6 (permalink) |
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04-04-2011, 10:17 AM | #7 (permalink) |
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nissan probably did less on helping amature racers than any other company, does it surprise you that they dont make a perfect car?
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04-04-2011, 10:25 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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Yea there's really not much worth talking about anymore. Most of the track events I go to I see rich guys in fast, expensive "pure sports cars" spinning out, over-steering into the infield, etc. They have these wonderful cars but can't drive them for $hit. And in terms of a "budget sports car", wouldn't the GT-R be in that category as well? Relatively speaking, 85 grand for one of the best production cars ever made that competes (and beats) cars that cost three times as much seems like a "budget car". My point is that price isn't really relevent when you consider the fact that you need to be a professional level driver to experience what powerful, exotic rwd cars can do on a track. And lets face it, the majority of those cars are purchased for all the wrong reasons. My parents live near Missy Elliot and I got one of my old cars tinted at a place that was installing a stereo system in her powder blue gallardo. Is she taking that car on a track to test out the stock brakes and cooling system? Except in rare instances I have found that driving ability, and "enthusiast rating" is inversely proportional to the price of the automobile. There are exceptions of course, but the enxt track day you go to check out the skill in the exotics. Last NASA event I was at all the driving instructors had race prepped vettes. Definitely a budget car by industry standards, but a hell of a car.
But yea, I'll agree that the Z is not the purest form of a sports car. But I would also not want a "super duper pure" sports car for a DD. I've been in a GT3, it's hellish unless you have smooth roads. I can't imagine an RS.
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04-04-2011, 10:36 AM | #9 (permalink) |
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my prius is faster than an old porsche 914, fb rx7 and triumphs at the track, does it make them less of a sports car? i actually call the british roadsters garbage, but thats another story?
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04-04-2011, 10:40 AM | #10 (permalink) |
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Thanks for confirming. It is a sports car, budget or not.
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04-04-2011, 03:32 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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Push was arguing it wasn't earlier, I just quoted him for reference and responded.
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Never said it wasn't. Have repeatedly been saying the Z is a sports car, but the entire argument was based on the fact that the Z was called a "pure sports car in every sense of the word". Loved my 370z, still do.
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I'm not preaching that the 135 is a better track car than the 370z in any way. I have over and over said the 370 is a better handling car, has decent power, and is therefore a great deal if you want a car you can reasonably drive a few or most days of the week that you'd like to also track. I would pick a moderately modified 370z over a moderately modified 135i any day of the week if it came to which one I want to track, or hands down the 370 if money were no object. Second of all, Dyno master for android is incredibly accurate. It was within 3 hp of my actual dyno numbers, and within .1 seconds of video timing for the 0-100 runs. Quote:
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Once again, I love the 370z. It is a great car all around and can be quite a beast at the racetrack with a couple thousand in modifications. I would still have mine if I had the time or room for a third car, but at this point in my life I have two garage spaces, commute a ways to school, and still want to get on a track every couple of weeks. That's why I don't have it anymore, not because I think a 1 series is a better race car than a Z, because it is not.
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04-04-2011, 11:46 AM | #14 (permalink) |
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i wouldnt say most z owners have a lot of track time, i think most are probably hacks (i am the biggest one). you are giving us too much credit.
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I have a lot of track time and I'll say that an old Miata is the best car to learn in. The Z has way too much power for a beginner. That's why I laugh when I see 17 year old's in 400 hp mustangs. Just asking for trouble.
Push, you shaved 4 secs off your lap time just with sway bars, HFC's, and exhaust? That's pretty nice. GZ, do you use an aggressive street pad or a race pad?
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