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Originally Posted by christian370z What is a "pure" sports car then? The elise, viper, older miata's, etc are all way closer to a pure sports car than the Z.

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Old 04-03-2011, 07:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What is a "pure" sports car then?

The elise, viper, older miata's, etc are all way closer to a pure sports car than the Z.
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Aside from a GT3 idk how much more pure of a sports car there is. 2 seat, rwd, stiff oem suspension, light curb weight, not too much effort placed into sound dampening, etc...

Hopeless impracticality doesn't make a sports car more pure
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Aside from a GT3 idk how much more pure of a sports car their is. 2 seat, rwd, stiff oem suspension, light curb weight, not too much effort placed into sound dampening, etc...
Right now, there's not much available that I would really consider a pure sports car. Perhaps a Lotus.

The Z weighs over 3000 lbs, comes with a VLSD at best, etc. I thought even the S was a bit watered down, and it came way closer to being a sports car than the Z does.
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Dude, of course the guy with the 1 series and a range rover is the expert on sports cars, didn't ya know. He's the expert. 410 whp with just an ecu tune! Bow down to the expert haha. So asinine.
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I'm failing to see the distinction. The base sport Z is 3200 lb, 2 seat, rwd 300+ HP car that has very few frills to detract away from power and driving experience (no nav, no heavy power sapping leather power seats). It comes with stock wheels that are as light or lighter than most aftermarket wheels of the same size and a stiff suspension. It's loud, it's bumpy, it's a very similar driving experience to a Porsche. I agree on the Elise and Miata's but their claim to fame is a lack of practicality that makes a Z look like a 5 door hybrid.

By this reasoning, would you then say that a Porsche c2S with leather seats, traction control, and sat/nav is not a "pure sports car"?
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I'm failing to see the distinction. The base sport Z is 3200 lb, 2 seat, rwd 300+ HP car that has very few frills to detract away from power and driving experience (no nav, no heavy power sapping leather power seats). It comes with stock wheels that are as light or lighter than most aftermarket wheels of the same size and a stiff suspension. It's loud, it's bumpy, it's a very similar driving experience to a Porsche.
If the Z went on a diet you might be able to call it a pure sports car.
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So then a sports car needs to be less than 3000 lbs? A sport base Z weights 40 pounds more than a Porsche gt2. Miata's, elise's, and s2k's are nice and light and that makes them easier to drive and handle better. I think it's philosophical semantics.
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If you're going to call it a pure sports car, I expect 10lbs/horse, and no unnecessary things like AC.
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If you're going to call it a pure sports car, I expect 10lbs/horse, and no unnecessary things like AC.
Ok then. So every Porsche except a GT3RS is not a pure sports car. Got it...

I think youre confusing a pure sports car with a track prepped race car. Anyone who seriously races a car will remove the AC, power steering, ABS, etc. But you can do that to any race prepped track car and call it race ready. Doesn't make it a sports car.
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Ok then. So every Porsche except a GT3RS is not a pure sports car. Got it...

I think youre confusing a pure sports car with a track prepped race car. Anyone who seriously races a car will remove the AC, power steering, ABS, etc. But you can do that to any race prepped track car and call it race ready. Doesn't make it a sports car.
Nope. A sports car can still have things like a full interior.


You can keep believing your nissan is a purebred sports car if you want. The S2000 came a whole lot closer to being a real sports car than this Z ever will, and I still wouldn't call it a pure sports car.
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Dude, of course the guy with the 1 series and a range rover is the expert on sports cars, didn't ya know. He's the expert. 410 whp with just an ecu tune! Bow down to the expert haha. So asinine.
And the guy with a budget sport coupe is? A sports car it is, but a "pure sports car" it is not. A GT3/GT2 and/or the RS variants, F430, 458 Italia, Viper ACR-X, GT-R, etc... would be a pure sports car in my opinion. What do these all have in common? They aren't $29,000.

The Z can't even last on a race track more than a few laps without putting on an oil cooler and upgraded brake pads! Even my pathetic little girly 1 series lasted for a good 25 minutes on the track with stock everything...and an extra 80 hp meaning additional heat everywhere.

So you tell me, does a "purebred sports car in every sense of the word" not come with adequate cooling and stopping components from the factory? Or does that just mean that Nissan doesn't believe it is, either?

That being said, I still love the 370z. It is a great package for the money, and I'd say the best thing under Cayman S prices if you're looking for an attractive, quick, and reasonably comfortable sports car.
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