Heel Toe Forum

[Draco]

Heel-toe is easy at low RPMs, during 'slow' driving, and only changing one gear. It's much much more difficult when you're diving into a corner, hard on the brakes and heel-toeing from 5th to 2nd. Enter SRM...

Right on. Its seems to me that the same procedures would apply going from 5th to 2nd, clutch, take it out of gear, match RPM's clutch shift while on the brake. I can see how it would be more demanding though. Anyway coming up on 1000 miles so I'll be more be putting the car through the paces soon (I want to break her in easy).

SRM though... Not for me. I want to learn the art of racing. I don't like computers getting in the way in machines. Bad in airplanes, bad in cars. I like the old school gearbox and shifter.

[Cory Gillmore]

I drove my 09 370 for nearly two years with SRM on and it fooled me into thinking I was a better driver than I was. I learned how to drive a manual in this car and it was my first manual car. I had gotten very comfortable with the car and was feeling confident in my abilities. But the day I finally turned off SRM was the day I discovered I had much more to learn.

I basically had to relearn everything. Even the timing for regular upshifts was different for me with SRM off as the car was no longer holding the revs where they needed to be in between upshifts. I have to say though, turning off SRM was the best thing I ever did. I now utilize heel/toe downshifts in everyday driving and it's brought a whole new pleasure to driving my car.

I honestly don't get how people say they don't do it in everyday driving. I mean how else do you rev match while hitting the brakes? It also kills me how many people drive a manual car and then dog on others for driving an automatic when they themselves have never even heard of heel/toe...So many people fall into this category. I've always at least know what it was..Even if I was relying on SRM to do it for me.

[DarkJak]

Practicing heel blipping during both mild brake pressure (street driving) and hard brake pressure (track driving) was helpful for me with my other cars. I found that getting my technique down for gentle street driving didn't translate very well to harder braking at the track.

[Cory Gillmore]

Originally Posted by DarkJak

Practicing heel blipping during both mild brake pressure (street driving) and hard brake pressure (track driving) was helpful for me with my other cars. I found that getting my technique down for gentle street driving didn't translate very well to harder braking at the track.

Thankfully the street I live on is right off of a 75mph highway. So I do get to practice it with late aggressive braking at least once a day. For me it was much more tricky with light braking! I use the big toe/little toe technique than the actual heel/toe technique. Feet are too big to be moving my feet like the rally drivers do lol.

[Rusty]

[ValidusVentus]

Agreed. Heel/toe during light braking is noticeably different from doing it on track and before corner entry but does help you get the basic order of operations down. Doing it on track introduces a whole other mental element having to time it and just takes practice.

I recently got a standalone abs system installed to cure my f&*&ing ice mode for good. Only "bad" side effect is that now I have to do my own heel/toe as it stole the rear wheel speed sensor outputs.

With that now being the case and me still having an organic based clutch in there, I might have to upgrade the material. I'm not as perfect as the computer.
Side note: the characteristics of our engine make low rpm rev-matching more challenging imo, due to the increased amount of "lag" down there.

[Elmo370z]

Originally Posted by ValidusVentus

Agreed. Heel/toe during light braking is noticeably different from doing it on track and before corner entry but does help you get the basic order of operations down. Doing it on track introduces a whole other mental element having to time it and just takes practice.

I recently got a standalone abs system installed to cure my f&*&ing ice mode for good. Only "bad" side effect is that now I have to do my own heel/toe as it stole the rear wheel speed sensor outputs.

With that now being the case and me still having an organic based clutch in there, I might have to upgrade the material. I'm not as perfect as the computer.
Side note: the characteristics of our engine make low rpm rev-matching more challenging imo, due to the increased amount of "lag" down there.

What abs system did you buy?