Track Day Chat

JARblue · 06-04-2019, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ///maestro

I’d love to hear how those two brands are considered “no-name.”

Because they are cheap and no one who takes track tires seriously would consider them. I'd certainly never put either one of those brands on my Z. I have heard of people using both though. To each their own.

kevingalls · 06-04-2019, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dts3

I need "track" calipers first lol

You don’t need sport calipers for your first DE. Just bleed the brake lines and put in high temp fluid and track compound pads like Carbotechs.

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///maestro · 06-04-2019, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Because they are cheap and no one who takes track tires seriously would consider them. I'd certainly never put either one of those brands on my Z. I have heard of people using both though. To each their own.

Both brands were recommended to me by time attack competitors....LOL. Do you compete or are you just blowing smoke out your pooper?

NorthStyle · 06-04-2019, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ///maestro

also - need some suggestions.

I'm stuck between two sets of tires. NEXEN SUR4G 275/40/18 and Federal RS-RR 265/40/18

both are about the same price. The nexens aren't offered in 275. I'm currently running 275 and contemplating bumping down to 265. I've got a buddy who swears by his nexen tires. Anyone try the Federals?

I haven't heard much about the Federals but the Nexens have been highly rated by some of the locals here and by a few of the Gridlife competitors I've been able to speak with. I plan on trying them out later this year.

JARblue · 06-04-2019, 08:26 PM

I never said anything about their performance. I'm sure they're perfectly capable.

Hotrodz · 06-05-2019, 08:18 AM

Out west a lot of guys run Nexen and they are loved by the drift community. Eagle runs them and he is fire! Federals are also popular as a dual purpose street and track tire. You aren't gonna break in records on them as they are second or two slower than the fastest tires. The Federals are cheap and good starter or practice tire. Lots of different tires and tire compounds out there to choose from. Since there are so many different track day organizations out west there is lots of information and people running different. You will no if a tire is garbage because the word spreads like wildfire. Don't just think because you haven't heard of a brand or they are cheap does not mean they will not perform.

JARblue · 06-05-2019, 08:56 AM

I know manufacturer defect is not one of the most common causes of tire failures. But I've seen enough cheap (i.e. inexpensive) tire defects, such as tread separation, that it's not worth the risk to use lower quality materials just to save a few pennies. It's why I stopped using Nittos, frankly. Just my

though. Not trying to start shìt...

Hotrodz · 06-05-2019, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I know manufacturer defect is not one of the most common causes of tire failures. But I've seen enough cheap (i.e. inexpensive) tire defects, such as tread separation, that it's not worth the risk to use lower quality materials just to save a few pennies. It's why I stopped using Nittos, frankly. Just my

though. Not trying to start shìt...

I am not discounting what you are saying at all. Nexen and Federal have been proven on the track. It is well documented the issues Nitto had early on and they have long since fixed all the issues they had back in the day. Their NT 01 is still the bench mark for street legal track tire. They still put down the fastest times and ware better than 95% off track tires used. They are expensive so people are always looking for something cheaper and faster.

There are a lot of good tires from lesser known manufactures being used down under, in Asia and Europe that are slowly making there way to the US. Quality control is constantly getting better all over the world.

RN SHARK · 06-05-2019, 10:18 AM

I run NT01’s, but thinking of switching and going the used racing slicks route. Lots of Continentals and Pirelli slicks from race teams for sale. A lot of M3 guys use them. Anyone here do this?

Hotrodz · 06-05-2019, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RN SHARK

I run NT01’s, but thinking of switching and going the used racing slicks route. Lots of Continentals and Pirelli slicks from race teams for sale. A lot of M3 guys use them. Anyone here do this?

LOL, I run NT01 as well and I have a track mate in Las Vegas that just got the hook up on used Pirelli slicks at killer price. He loved them. Unfortunately, my car is out of service and he blew his head gasket in his 350 back in March.

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///maestro · 06-05-2019, 10:52 AM

Here's my video guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uc9oeNDXtM

Things I've noticed: I'm braking too early, trail braking too late, causing me to lose speed coming out of the turns (mainly because I'm worred of spinning out due to lack of grip on my crappy tires). I've also noticed I don't go wide enough on some turns and turn in a little too early on others.

A buddy of mine who competes in time attack reviewed the footage also mentioned that my shifts need to be smoother so I'm not chirping each gear lol

osbornsm · 06-05-2019, 01:48 PM

Video no worky

Also SMOOTH inputs, even gas and brake :-)

///maestro · 06-05-2019, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by osbornsm

Video no worky

Also SMOOTH inputs, even gas and brake :-)

Weird. Not sure why it's not working. Added a link in my previous post.

Rusty · 06-05-2019, 03:24 PM

Elmo370z · 06-06-2019, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ///maestro

Here's my video guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uc9oeNDXtM

Things I've noticed: I'm braking too early, trail braking too late, causing me to lose speed coming out of the turns (mainly because I'm worred of spinning out due to lack of grip on my crappy tires). I've also noticed I don't go wide enough on some turns and turn in a little too early on others.

A buddy of mine who competes in time attack reviewed the footage also mentioned that my shifts need to be smoother so I'm not chirping each gear lol

O
Great driving, track looked like a ton of fun. I noticed throughout the video where you downshifted when you should of stayed in the higher gear.

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Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Out west a lot of guys run Nexen and they are loved by the drift community. Eagle runs them and he is fire! Federals are also popular as a dual purpose street and track tire. You aren't gonna break in records on them as they are second or two slower than the fastest tires. The Federals are cheap and good starter or practice tire. Lots of different tires and tire compounds out there to choose from. Since there are so many different track day organizations out west there is lots of information and people running different. You will no if a tire is garbage because the word spreads like wildfire. Don't just think because you haven't heard of a brand or they are cheap does not mean they will not perform. Eagle and Rusty like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 44 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684441	I know manufacturer defect is not one of the most common causes of tire failures. But I've seen enough cheap (i.e. inexpensive) tire defects, such as tread separation, that it's not worth the risk to use lower quality materials just to save a few pennies. It's why I stopped using Nittos, frankly. Just my though. Not trying to start shìt... __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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///maestro Track Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 530 Drives: 11' 370z\|09' BMW M3 Rep Power: 12	Here's my video guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uc9oeNDXtM Things I've noticed: I'm braking too early, trail braking too late, causing me to lose speed coming out of the turns (mainly because I'm worred of spinning out due to lack of grip on my crappy tires). I've also noticed I don't go wide enough on some turns and turn in a little too early on others. A buddy of mine who competes in time attack reviewed the footage also mentioned that my shifts need to be smoother so I'm not chirping each gear lol ZontheRocks and dts3 like this. __________________ Gallo24 swapped 370z Instagram: @z34_motorsport Last edited by ///maestro; 06-05-2019 at 02:01 PM.

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