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Hey, Hey, Keep it to a min. LOL I searched for 2-3 days off and on about sway bars. I read enough bickering.

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Old 07-07-2015, 01:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey, Hey, Keep it to a min. LOL I searched for 2-3 days off and on about sway bars. I read enough bickering.
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Breakin it down to the bear essentials:
1. More front is better and for performance driving there is no such thing as too much front bar.
2. How much rear bar is dependent on your driving style, suspension and type of driving. As a general rule, too much rear bar can make the Z tail happy.

Good luck with getting this stuff dialed in. It will take some time to get it right, but that is what makes it fun!!!
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Breakin it down to the bear essentials:
1. More front is better and for performance driving there is no such thing as too much front bar.
2. How much rear bar is dependent on your driving style, suspension and type of driving. As a general rule, too much rear bar can make the Z tail happy.

Good luck with getting this stuff dialed in. It will take some time to get it right, but that is what makes it fun!!!
I hear ya. I want it to be like my 75 280zt. On a banked off ramp it sticks like glue so good that it will actually snap your head to the outside of the turn. Got a ticket for going 78mph that day at the exit of the off ramp. Oops, those were the crazy days. It was a banked loop.
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Breakin it down to the bear essentials:
1. More front is better and for performance driving there is no such thing as too much front bar.
2. How much rear bar is dependent on your driving style, suspension and type of driving. As a general rule, too much rear bar can make the Z tail happy.

Good luck with getting this stuff dialed in. It will take some time to get it right, but that is what makes it fun!!!
There IS such a thing as too much front bar. Trust me. You DO understand that a sway bar is doing the right thing, but solving it the wrong way...correct?

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There IS such a thing as too much front bar. Trust me. You DO understand that a sway bar is doing the right thing, but solving it the wrong way...correct?

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Come on now...if you read through all the threads on this forum regarding front sway bar and tracking (road racing) and autoX one thing rings true regardless of other suspension set up and sticky tires and that is you can not buy a front bar that is to stiff. The pros all make their own!!! If you are DD and only drive the car spiritedly, then you don't need to go to extremes that are being pointed out here, but any Z's handling will benefit from more front bar!!! Try it you will like it....
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We typically run from :softer than a standard rear bar... to a Nismo rear bar... Or in between.
Depends on how much grip the track has.
We have 3 rear bars that we can switch between depending on where we end up.
Normally we run either the lower and middle bar.
Each side has adjustable blades that gives us an adjustable range. If we find we get towards the top of that range..
We can go to the middle sized bar... And and have adjustment down or up.

Front bar.... Its big.... Real freakin big.
More like massive.



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We typically run from :softer than a standard rear bar... to a Nismo rear bar... Or in between.
Depends on how much grip the track has.



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Good to know. That gives me a starting point.
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I have a stiffer front bar and I am perfectly happy with it. I run a Whiteline front on full stiff, and a stock rear bar. I also don't race on race tires with the car, which in itself would desire a stiffer bar. It is all in the application which determines how big of a bar you will need. But if you run a monstrous front bar on the car, then you better be ready to either have tires which can handle it, or be prepared to have a very understeering car.
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I haven't heard of 2 different versions of the bar. Maybe someone else has.
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That is the deal for those of us that are boosted. More bar is necessary at over 500whp and torque!

Great job WG buy the way, to bad it rained!
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That is the deal for those of us that are boosted. More bar is necessary at over 500whp and torque!

Great job WG buy the way, to bad it rained!
The car needs more sway-bar period. It has a good amount of body lean If you stick it in a corner hard. Even the Nismo version like we both have. The trick is, how much do we need. The comments on this thread give me a heck of a good starting point.

Thanks for all the useful comments guys.
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The car needs more sway-bar period. It has a good amount of body lean If you stick it in a corner hard. Even the Nismo version like we both have. The trick is, how much do we need. The comments on this thread give me a heck of a good starting point.

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What is the front sway doing in the case of the Z that makes it so beneficial? I was always under the impression that a stiffer front sway would induce understeer. I am asking specifically in the context of autocross which is my chosen performance diving venue.
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