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Alchemy

Got this one yesterday

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onzedge

Nice shot. The blue photographs nicely, IMO.

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Nitex

I have a hard time reading to much rockwell these days.

Seems so far we have 1 Nikon purist for the D800. And 1 nikon purist for the 5D3.

So far im on the fence. While the 5D3 obviously does a MUCH better job with usefull ISO. The D800 however has almost twice the MP, and for as good as it does im amazed!

I feel like they have done a great job controlling noise for such a high MP. Also when looking at detail, its obvious that the extra MP is going to work by resolving more detail in both low and well lit areas, IMO.

Such a toss up.. if only Nikon would release F4 lenses with VR for under 2k. I think it still comes down to lens selection overall. Takes a real baller to play with 2.8s VR and Nikons, especially past 200mm

On a side note my D300s should be out of the repair shop today! Time to compare it directly to this new D3200 i picked up! 24 MP new kid on the block vs the 12MP Old dog from grandpa!


D3200 JPEG + AUTO straight from the cam minor tweaks in viewNX2.

Nikon D3200 Nissan 370z by nitex08, on Flickr

D3200 JPEG + AUTO straight from the cam minor tweaks in viewNX2.

Nikon D3200 Nissan 370z by nitex08, on Flickr

D3200 RAW + M few tweaks in capture NX2.

Rem1 by nitex08, on Flickr

I have been out of the game for awhile so these shots are not all that impressive.. But I have taken a whole 10 shots or so with it and still do not have an initial assesment of the D3200.

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Nitex

Bad news from the camera shop. They are unable to remove the tamron lens that is stuck to my D300s body So i can send it in to Nikon as my last option.

Few more with the D3200 - Images are looking a little soft with the kit lens, im hoping some quality glass will fix that. I will admit i have no idea what im doing in capture NX2.

baileyD32-2 by nitex08, on Flickr


bckyrd32 by nitex08, on Flickr

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Parkerman

My thing is, I have no need or want for that many MP's, I do however always want to be able to use more natural light.

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Cmike2780

I'm liking the D800 also, but I'd rather wait for the D400 or whatever it's going to be called. The D800 is too much camera for what I need....heck, my trusty D90 is more than I need. I swear, this hobby is worst than modding cars.

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Nitex

Agreed Mike, im trying to get a grip and realize im not a pro getting paid for photo work. I do find myself OCD'ing out and pixel peeping. Knowing damn well its the tool behind the camera that makes the biggest difference.

But specs are specs and as we get more accustomed to constant upgrades, things are noticed when we revert. Things like a puny viewfinder and horrible battery life makes a good reason for opting to buy the more expensive body (my main 2 gripes with the d3200). The other odd thing is they opted for 12 bit vs 14 bit raw files. I realize this is THE entry level Nikon DSLR for the most part, and i shouldn't expect to much from it. But its helping me understand what i do what from my next camera.

Anyways time will tell.. But i sure wish the D400 or D7100, what ever it will be, was out right now. I really want to test the new sensor. And i wouldn't mind spending another $1000 over the D3200 price to do it. Maybe ill just return it in a month(thanks best buy) and buy a D800

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Dallaz

Yeah there's pros and cons for me too with that many MP's. HUUUGE raw files on my computer that I keep cramming on there and dont always get around to deleting slow the hell out of my computer. I'm actually looking more in to cinematography at the moment. I've had no interest in it since the start of DSLR's introducing video capabilities until recently when watching a few videos on YouTube by various people who are really making amazing short films using just their DSLR'S and a Glidecam

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Cmike2780

From what I've seen, both have really, really good high ISO capabilities. The Nikon also has a better dynamic range. The only difference I could tell were the color renditions, with the Canon rendering a bit warmer color tones. The Canon wins in the 'burst' mode however, since the Nikon struggles a bit more with the higher MP's. I think both are insanely good cameras with Nikon edging out because of the MP's. It's more than you need, but from a technical standpoint, who wouldn't want a near medium format camera quality for a fraction of the cost.

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Parkerman

Me.

I would much rather have another stop of light.

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Cmike2780

I'm not a pro, so do you mind explaining what you mean? Higher 'usable' ISO on the D800 is pretty on Par compared to the 5D from what I've seen. They both get really noisy around ISO 12,800, but still usable. The ISO on the 5D could techically go up to 102,800, but it ain't pretty...besides, wouldn't a faster lens yield better results?

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Parkerman

From what I've seen, the 5DMIII is more usable at 25600 than the D800. I would use that a lot more than being able to take a picture and print it out the size of car.

And even past 25600, the option is always there even though its not to pretty. A grainy shot is better than a blurry shot.

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Cmike2780

I guess it really depends on what you're shooting. To me, any noise is distracting, which is why I usually shoot with ISO 100, 95% of the time. If you're a wedding photographer though, I can see why the extremely high ISO would be better than not getting the shot. The D800 is suppose to have a really good dynamic range though, which might help in post without loosing detail which I really like. Truth be told, 12MP is enough, but having 36MP means more to play with. For someone doing wedding photo's this could work as a benefit, potentially saving a pic that needs cropping. It's not like you have to shoot at that setting either.

DxOMark gave the D800 a score of 95 vs 81 for the 5D Mark III, besting it in every category including low-light ISO if that means anything. At the end of the day though, I still think they are pretty much neck and neck.

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Cmike2780

^^^sick shot!

I don't normally like the vignette effect, but it works for that shot.

On a side note, does anyone here use a stand-alone light meter and shoot manually... or do you guys just let the on-board camera metering do it's thing?

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