Will there be a V8 version?

sbsmoov · 11-18-2008, 06:21 PM

There's talk of a special edition model with a V8 that is supposedly being considered--this is according to the Z34 Chief of Production, Shinjiro Yukawa.

Any new info about this or rumors?

CrownR426 · 11-18-2008, 06:32 PM

LOL...
Nissan would never do that...
Why?
Because of sales.
They already have a faster car the GTR.
They don't need a V8 370z.
In my opinion though!

AK370Z · 11-18-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sbsmoov

There's talk of a special edition model with a V8 that is supposedly being considered--this is according to the Z34 Chief of Production, Shinjiro Yukawa.

Any new info about this or rumors?

I don't know at this point. I highly doubt Nissan will come out with the V8 Z. If I remember correctly, around July-July, there were a lot talk going on after He (Shinjiro Yukawa) said

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In an interview with Z34 Chief of Production Shinjiro Yukawa last month, Best Car did us all the favor of finding out that Nissan's new 370Z could come in a V8 with a special edition model.

Yukawa mentioned that he wanted to raise the perforamance of the new Z, and acknowledged the Porsche Cayman S as its main competitor, which gives us even more confidence that the V8 may very much be within reach. The suspension is expected to come with double wishbones up front and muli-links in the rear, along with upgraded brakes that include 6-pot and 4-pot Brembo calipers along with larger disks in the Version S and ST models.

But this is old news. I should also mention that for the First time, Acura (Honda corp) is going V8 ...so who knows

SMJane_Again · 11-18-2008, 09:37 PM

A V8 Z would be excellent if they could keep the weight w/in 150lbs of the Base 370z, say, 3380lbs. Figure a hp number of at least 400 hp... that would set it up to give the next generation M Coupe (BMW is going to use the M3 V8 in the next Coupe) a serious headache. Only problem will be more weight up front, but if Nissan beefs up the chassis right, the weight distribution should remain about the same. Unadultered speculation on my part, but I'd be interested in it if it happened.

S.

ultrablue · 11-18-2008, 09:54 PM

This will never happen. Mainly because of what CrownR said. Also, supposedly the new Z is a bit shorter than the old one... I dont see how they'd fit their 5.6 liter in there. And they wouldnt make a brand new motor just for this project.

It would be more cost effective to shove the GTR's TT engine into he Z. And I highly doubt that will happen, again, CrownR hot the nail on the head.

AK370Z · 11-18-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ultrablue

This will never happen. Mainly because of what CrownR said. Also, supposedly the new Z is a bit shorter than the old one... I dont see how they'd fit their 5.6 liter in there. And they wouldnt make a brand new motor just for this project.

It would be more cost effective to shove the GTR's TT engine into he Z. And I highly doubt that will happen, again, CrownR hot the nail on the head.

agreed.

Slidefox · 11-18-2008, 10:59 PM

One word G-T-R

SMJane_Again · 11-18-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ultrablue

This will never happen. Mainly because of what CrownR said. Also, supposedly the new Z is a bit shorter than the old one... I dont see how they'd fit their 5.6 liter in there. And they wouldnt make a brand new motor just for this project.

It would be more cost effective to shove the GTR's TT engine into he Z. And I highly doubt that will happen, again, CrownR hot the nail on the head.

It most likely won't happen, I agree, but I'd hesitate to use an absolute in this case. Reason being, you have car companies out there already producing cars that are competing with their more expensive siblings. Audi's upcoming RS5 will be as fast if not faster than their R8. BMW's M3 will easily hang with its M6 (and a faster Ring time to boot). Also, if you take a look at the released specs of the 370z it IS a bit shorter... as in 169.8" for the current Z vs 167.1" for the 370... that's 2.7". That's not much. Not enough that if they could wedge a V8 in the 350z, they couldn't do it for the 370, imo. So, why not a limited edition V8 rear drive two seat sports car? Doesn't really compete straight on with a slightly-less-limited edition TTV6 awd 4 seat super coupe, now does it? Again, I also doubt it will happen, but how many times have people said a vehicle wasn't going to make it to market "no matter what" and then, all of a sudden, there it was?

S.

CrownR426 · 11-18-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SMJane_Again

It most likely won't happen, I agree, but I'd hesitate to use an absolute in this case. Reason being, you have car companies out there already producing cars that are competing with their more expensive siblings. Audi's upcoming RS5 will be as fast if not faster than their R8. BMW's M3 will easily hang with its M6 (and a faster Ring time to boot). Also, if you take a look at the released specs of the 370z it IS a bit shorter... as in 169.8" for the current Z vs 167.1" for the 370... that's 2.7". That's not much. Not enough that if they could wedge a V8 in the 350z, they couldn't do it for the 370, imo. So, why not a limited edition V8 rear drive two seat sports car? Doesn't really compete straight on with a slightly-less-limited edition TTV6 awd 4 seat super coupe, now does it? Again, I also doubt it will happen, but how many times have people said a vehicle wasn't going to make it to market "no matter what" and then, all of a sudden, there it was?

S.

Nissan would be cashing out on the v8 big time, especially because they'd have to rebuild the car since a v8 engine is too big for the 370z right now. That would then add more weight to the car. That would make it like a 350 with a V8. But... Then again honda/acura is coming out with V8 cars. We'll see...

cstr_Cali · 11-19-2008, 01:09 AM

One question: Why?

Serves NO purpose. I'll be pretty stoked to see a 5.0+ V8 under the Super GT version that's bound to debut at some point in the very near future.

jaesung83 · 11-19-2008, 08:59 AM

japans not own for their v8.... personally i like v8's but i rather get a bulletproof v6 in stand of a weak v8... plus whats the point droping in a v8 in this car, just put a factory turbo on it. u know...

they have to make this car slower then the gtr neways... they wont want to compete together whats the point in that. around or at $40k n' this car has a v8 and it is as powerful as the gtr, everyone will get this car in stand of the gtr. the sales of the gtr will drop.

CrownR426 · 11-19-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jaesung83

japans not own for their v8.... personally i like v8's but i rather get a bulletproof v6 in stand of a weak v8... plus whats the point droping in a v8 in this car, just put a factory turbo on it. u know...

they have to make this car slower then the gtr neways... they wont want to compete together whats the point in that. around or at $40k n' this car has a v8 and it is as powerful as the gtr, everyone will get this car in stand of the gtr. the sales of the gtr will drop.

Exactly... That what I'm saying! That's retarded cause they will lose that GTR name! the 370z would piss on that heavy thing if it did come out as a V8... But who knows! With our whacky world and economical crisis, anything can happen. Dunno if V8 is the right thing imo... Seems silly.

SMJane_Again · 11-19-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jaesung83

japans not own for their v8.... personally i like v8's but i rather get a bulletproof v6 in stand of a weak v8... plus whats the point droping in a v8 in this car, just put a factory turbo on it. u know...

they have to make this car slower then the gtr neways... they wont want to compete together whats the point in that. around or at $40k n' this car has a v8 and it is as powerful as the gtr, everyone will get this car in stand of the gtr. the sales of the gtr will drop.

It won't be as powerful as the GTR, at least I don't think it would be. The Nissan's 5.0L engine (currently found in the Infiniti FX 50) makes 390hp and 369 lb-ft of torque. Let's say you tuned it to make 400hp at 7000 rpm, your torque figure would be slighly lower... both numbers would come second best to the GTR. For the horsepower mongers out there who look solely at numbers (and there are a few in the market for $80K sports cars) those numbers aren't as impressive as the GTR's 480hp and 430lb-ft. Also, there's the matter of getting that power to hook up effectively. With awd, the GTR is still faster 0-60. Handling? With all the electronic aids, the GTR has been described as physics defying. You keep the Z relatively free of those, and you have a rawer animal. This won't appeal to many prospective GTR buyers who cross-shop cars such as Porsche's 911 turbo. So now you see the 'limited edition' angle that I'm getting at... this will be a car for the hard core, a Nissan 370z 'RS', if you will, provided the weight gain is minimal and overall power/weight is increased to the good.

Again, I repeat my belief that this probably WILL NOT happen. But, I don't believe the argument that this fictitious Z (maybe someday built for homologation purposes perhaps?) will not achieve fruition due to its poaching sales from the GTR. The cars are completely different animals, much like the M3/M6, R8/RS5, and 911 GT3/911 Turbo. Speculation is fun!

S.

sbsmoov · 11-19-2008, 04:17 PM

A 400-430HP V8 if offered would make sense IMO because it would compete in the sports car/muscle car segment just below the performance level of the GT-R. The GT-R's main competitor is the Porsche 911 Turbo and other supercars. The 370Z's main competitor is the Porsche Cayman S. But Nissan does not have a Corvette (base) fighter or offering to compete in that market segment (see below)--there's a huge performance gap (100+hp) here that a V8 offering would fill.

1. Corvette (430HP)
2. Dodge Challenger SRT-8 (425HP)
3. Camaro Z28 SS (420HP)
4. Ford Shelby GT500 (500HP)
5. Porsche 911 Carerra/S (345HP/385HP)
6. Audi TT RS (340HP)
7. BMW Z4M (420HP)

And a V8 would definately appeal to and draw sales from the muscle car segment--Nissan's best approach, from a marketing standpoint, would be to do it American style--V8 powerplant. I think many prospective Corvette, Camaro & Challenger customers would reconsider--even more so now since the Big 3 are nearly bankrupt. Strategically it would be a great opportunity for Nissan to grab market share in this segment. And I do believe Nissan already has a 4.5L unit--450Z has a nice ring to it...don't you agree?

Any thoughts?

CrownR426 · 11-19-2008, 10:38 PM

I can sorta see I guess...
Since Nissan is trying to compete with Porche...
Thats the only reason and possiblity I could come up with the V8...
They might actually try to beat out Porche.
We'll see!

11-18-2008, 06:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
sbsmoov Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New York Posts: 54 Rep Power: 16	Will there be a V8 version? There's talk of a special edition model with a V8 that is supposedly being considered--this is according to the Z34 Chief of Production, Shinjiro Yukawa. Any new info about this or rumors?

11-18-2008, 06:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 847	LOL... Nissan would never do that... Why? Because of sales. They already have a faster car the GTR. They don't need a V8 370z. In my opinion though! __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

11-18-2008, 09:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
SMJane_Again Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: COS, CO Posts: 137 Drives: 18 Golf R Rep Power: 16	A V8 Z would be excellent if they could keep the weight w/in 150lbs of the Base 370z, say, 3380lbs. Figure a hp number of at least 400 hp... that would set it up to give the next generation M Coupe (BMW is going to use the M3 V8 in the next Coupe) a serious headache. Only problem will be more weight up front, but if Nissan beefs up the chassis right, the weight distribution should remain about the same. Unadultered speculation on my part, but I'd be interested in it if it happened. S. __________________ ~S.M. "Don't look back. Someone might be gaining on you." -Satchel Paige

11-18-2008, 09:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
ultrablue Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE Posts: 15 Drives: 2006 Dodge Charger Rep Power: 16	This will never happen. Mainly because of what CrownR said. Also, supposedly the new Z is a bit shorter than the old one... I dont see how they'd fit their 5.6 liter in there. And they wouldnt make a brand new motor just for this project. It would be more cost effective to shove the GTR's TT engine into he Z. And I highly doubt that will happen, again, CrownR hot the nail on the head. __________________

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11-19-2008, 01:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
cstr_Cali Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 347 Drives: smoke grey Rep Power: 572	One question: Why? Serves NO purpose. I'll be pretty stoked to see a 5.0+ V8 under the Super GT version that's bound to debut at some point in the very near future.

11-19-2008, 08:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
jaesung83 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 49 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 16	japans not own for their v8.... personally i like v8's but i rather get a bulletproof v6 in stand of a weak v8... plus whats the point droping in a v8 in this car, just put a factory turbo on it. u know... they have to make this car slower then the gtr neways... they wont want to compete together whats the point in that. around or at $40k n' this car has a v8 and it is as powerful as the gtr, everyone will get this car in stand of the gtr. the sales of the gtr will drop.

11-19-2008, 04:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
sbsmoov Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New York Posts: 54 Rep Power: 16	Here's why a V8 makes sense A 400-430HP V8 if offered would make sense IMO because it would compete in the sports car/muscle car segment just below the performance level of the GT-R. The GT-R's main competitor is the Porsche 911 Turbo and other supercars. The 370Z's main competitor is the Porsche Cayman S. But Nissan does not have a Corvette (base) fighter or offering to compete in that market segment (see below)--there's a huge performance gap (100+hp) here that a V8 offering would fill. 1. Corvette (430HP) 2. Dodge Challenger SRT-8 (425HP) 3. Camaro Z28 SS (420HP) 4. Ford Shelby GT500 (500HP) 5. Porsche 911 Carerra/S (345HP/385HP) 6. Audi TT RS (340HP) 7. BMW Z4M (420HP) And a V8 would definately appeal to and draw sales from the muscle car segment--Nissan's best approach, from a marketing standpoint, would be to do it American style--V8 powerplant. I think many prospective Corvette, Camaro & Challenger customers would reconsider--even more so now since the Big 3 are nearly bankrupt. Strategically it would be a great opportunity for Nissan to grab market share in this segment. And I do believe Nissan already has a 4.5L unit--450Z has a nice ring to it...don't you agree? Any thoughts? Last edited by sbsmoov; 11-19-2008 at 08:44 PM.

11-19-2008, 10:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 847	I can sorta see I guess... Since Nissan is trying to compete with Porche... Thats the only reason and possiblity I could come up with the V8... They might actually try to beat out Porche. We'll see! __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer