Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

vo2max99

Oh yeah someone correctly points out how dumb it is to judge the car based on test track #'s so must be "Toyota salesman"!


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NeoSHNIK

You are right. That term is wrong. "Toyota Marketing Manager" or "Toyota Marketer" is probably a better term. Amirite?

Waiz

I spotted my first black one last night after seeing 3 white ones over the last week, I was really impressed!

Nikkolai

Dang, I still haven't seen a BRZ or an FR-S yet. I see plenty of Z's though, base, sport, Nismo.

DJ-of-E

Supply and demand, peeps!

We can't predict it yet because of supply and demand. We do not know how many people want to buy it brand new and how many willing to buy it used.

For example, 2004-2005, not a lot of "new" WRX STI owners, but a lot of people still wanting them used. Considering they're $18,000 range, they hold up their value well. Now, the RSX Type S. A lot more "new" owner purchasing them, but lesser used owner wanting them, so you see them for around $7-14k (depending on year). That's not too shabby. Then the 7th gen Celica. Crap ton of purchasers, but re-sells are not high at all. You could see them used around $7k max for the 6-speed model.

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Isamu

lol Spikuh

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DJ-of-E

Here's a quick snapshot between stock 370z and stock FRS.

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Red__Zed

wow, I'm surprised at how big the FRS looks.

I kinda like it from the front. Not so much from the other angles.

ZMan8

I'm with you, best angle is from the front. Also regarding size i think it's that picture, someone on here posted another picture next to an orange FR-S and it looked much smaller.

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DJ-of-E

When I took the pictures with the owner, the he and I were shocked how "larger" the FR-S looks and him being how "smaller" the 370z looks.

The owner stated that a lot of the Scion dealerships are marking them up by easy $2000 by putting "sport" suspension, making them "taller" when I saw his FR-S. This explains why the first FR-S I saw seemed smaller but this "pure stock" one is taller. I'm also on stock base suspension btw. When you put suspension on the Z, it looks still big. But when you put suspension on the FR-S to drop barely 1 inch, it looks smaller and low (but not really that much to the 370z). However, the Z is a big "wide-porker."

Interior space is worst than the Z for a taller person, but roomier overall. Trunk space makes the Z put to complete shame.

Anyways, specs.

370Z
Weight: 3245
Height: 51.8
Length: 167.2
Track Front: 61.0
Track Rear: 62.8
Width: 72.6
Wheelbase: 100.4

FRS
Weight: 2758
Height: 50.6
Length: 166.7
Track Front: 59.8
Track Rear: 60.6
Width: 69.9
Wheelbase: 101.2

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Spikuh

I feel like the front of it would look even better had they made that little raise with the Scion emblem a bit more pronouced and carry it back through the hood. Would have added just a bit more agression imo.

I think its the angle of the shots that make the cars look so comparable in size, although it does seem to be taller than I expected.

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Isamu

it's why the 1st thing I did was start to design some new aero for it..
lol

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ZMan8

back seat was added to this car as a selling point/marketing strategy. Enthusiasts will never use it, family people will not buy this car as a family car.

Even in a larger coupe such as the camaro/mustang when i get in the drivers seat, the seat must pretty much touch the back seat for me to be comfortable.

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Waiz

Good comparison shots Eric

vo2max99

You're still upset someone is correctly pointing out how dumb it is to judge a car based solely on test track #'s / HP? Wow buddy you should get over it...

Amirite? Yes I'm correct.



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