Good-Bye Jeep Liberty! WELCOME BACK JEEP CHEROKEE!

Red__Zed · 03-26-2013, 08:33 PM

Unknown I will be sending you a bill for the unexpected expenses this thread has caused me to incur.

m4a1mustang · 03-26-2013, 09:20 PM

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Unknown I will be sending you a bill for the unexpected expenses this thread has caused me to incur.

I knew it. I guess I better start researching myself.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-27-2013, 08:07 AM

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Yeah, I think the only difference is the inherent risk of damage when offroading which pushes a little bit more towards the cheap option.

While you can take your bone-stock (well, with oil cooler) Z out for a track day, keep it at 8/10s, and then drive home with fairly low risk, the same cannot be said for a real wheeling trail. I figure you are generally dropping $5K just to get the underbody protection you need, nevermind all the other nice-to-haves.

Cheap tends to get people into a much more capable car, because an XJ with five grand in it will spank a bone stock TJ, and probably cost less.

When you get to anything really extreme, your base platform is pretty much just providing a frame, and there's a different set of concerns. Once you get to that point, it's probably best to get advice someplace other than a Z forum.

Bummer to hear about your XJ. I miss all my jeeps....posting in this thread has me browsing Craigslist for replacements

One thing to keep in mind if you are the prepper-type is the limited storage inside the Wrangler, unless you get an Unlimited. You also might consider a hardtop if you go that path.

For your goal, you don't need much in the way of capability. I would spend your mod funds on underbody protection (especially oil pan), perhaps a small lift, and some knobby tires. Once you get a little more proficient, you'd probably look at lockers and some other items, but really armor should be all you need to get going.

My platform suggestions would be LJ or XJ, but I think you could get away with most cars, provided you were willing to take on the risk, as well as spend the money protecting the critical components.

Just wanna stress I'm not a hardcore prepper. lol. I just am prepped enough to get the f..k outta dodge if I have to??? I'm not spending wads on this shyt. lol. But it's made me re-think the cars and other items I buy... Really good advice. I was looking at the unlimited and Grand cherokee. I figured a Good AWD pkg with underbody protection was where i was leaning. I just thought the cherokee was worth a look too since they were trying to make it respectable again. I didn't think it would before it's release.

Went to dealer 5 days ago. Looks like I can get a properly equipped Grand Cherokee limited for $42,000. A properly equipped MOAB edition Wrangler unlimited for $44,000.

The FJ, seems like a better value... But I rather own a jeep. I think parts would be much easier to come by.

I might look into getting one of the older chassis's like you mentioned? We'll see.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-27-2013, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Unknown I will be sending you a bill for the unexpected expenses this thread has caused me to incur.

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I knew it. I guess I better start researching myself.

And what expense is that?

Are you guys going back to 4x4 now?

Red__Zed · 03-27-2013, 08:13 AM

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Just wanna stress I'm not a hardcore prepper. lol. I just am prepped enough to get the f..k outta dodge if I have to??? I'm not spending wads on this shyt. lol. But it's made me re-think the cars and other items I buy... Really good advice. I was looking at the unlimited and Grand cherokee. I figured a Good AWD pkg with underbody protection was where i was leaning. I just thought the cherokee was worth a look too since they were trying to make it respectable again. I didn't think it would before it's release.

Went to dealer 5 days ago. Looks like I can get a properly equipped Grand Cherokee limited for $42,000. A properly equipped MOAB edition Wrangler unlimited for $44,000.

The FJ, seems like a better value... But I rather own a jeep. I think parts would be much easier to come by.

I might look into getting one of the older chassis's like you mentioned? We'll see.

If you go new jeep I'd skip the Moab unless you want the look-pretty goodies.

You can get a rubicon unlimited for 36 ish, and a sport for 32ish with no issue.

The upstream jeeps are rarely a good deal. You can build a sport into a rubicon for less than the price delta. That said, the rubicons do hold value well when it comes time to sell

In my mind, the newer jeeps are worthwhile if offroading is not a priority and using the vehicle as an SUV is a regular occurrence. If you go that route, I'd go unlimited with a hard top.

Red__Zed · 03-27-2013, 08:13 AM

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And what expense is that?

Are you guys going back to 4x4 now?

I bought a jeep

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-27-2013, 08:16 AM

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I bought a jeep

lol.

When??? Pix?

Red__Zed · 03-27-2013, 08:18 AM

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lol.

When??? Pix?

Bought it last night and am picking it up tonight or tomorrow. I'll get pics up as soon as I get it home.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-27-2013, 08:23 AM

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Bought it last night and am picking it up tonight or tomorrow. I'll get pics up as soon as I get it home.

Congrats. Didn't know my thread would spark such emotions. lol.

enjoy.

I do plan on hittin the rocks, Going off road on rough terrain, for practice/fun. But not hardcore to the point I will be competing etc. So you the new one are good enough?

Red__Zed · 03-27-2013, 08:30 AM

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Congrats. Didn't know my thread would spark such emotions. lol.

enjoy.

I do plan on hittin the rocks, Going off road on rough terrain, for practice/fun. But not hardcore to the point I will be competing etc. So you the new one are good enough?

Good enough if you can afford risking a new car.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-27-2013, 08:33 AM

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Good enough if you can afford risking a new car.

Resale here is so high on them that it seems better to go new. I should probably go back home to get a good deal on jeeps'. Back home or PA, NJ, and new england. You get better deals on vehicles like this. The midsouth is a rip-off. It's like, drive new or get raped...

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-27-2013, 02:26 PM

Well Here's the much hated and uninspiring All New Jeep Cherokee. lol.

2014 Jeep Cherokee | SUV with 9 Speed Auto Transmission | Jeep

Red__Zed · 03-27-2013, 02:30 PM

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Well Here's the much hated and uninspiring All New Jeep Cherokee. lol.

2014 Jeep Cherokee | SUV with 9 Speed Auto Transmission | Jeep

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-27-2013, 02:39 PM

While the Jeep Cherokee is NOT what I'm looking at. I think it's going to be a good value for a trail-rated vehicle by comparison. I guess I look at this vehicle like the glass half full vs half empty. lol

Sibze · 03-27-2013, 09:21 PM

I own a 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland with the same interior posted in the last page. It is (without including the Z) my favorite vehicle I've ever owned. Love love love when it snows and love taking it off road. With the Quadra-Lift system, it's a real show off being able to raise and lower the truck with a push of a button.

It has great power, great looks (I don't like the 14 personally) and the interior is amazing. The sheep leather is soft, smells amazing and looks great!

Took it out the last big snow fall. Drove by an H2 that was stuck without an issue and lots of other "SUVs" who thought they could handle the snow. I tried to get it stuck, drove through drifts and any high points of snow I could and I couldn't get it stuck.

Extremely happy with my jeep and would buy it again tomorrow.

03-26-2013, 08:33 PM	#46 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 119	Unknown I will be sending you a bill for the unexpected expenses this thread has caused me to incur. m4a1mustang likes this.

03-27-2013, 02:26 PM	#57 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	Well Here's the much hated and uninspiring All New Jeep Cherokee. lol. 2014 Jeep Cherokee \| SUV with 9 Speed Auto Transmission \| Jeep __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

03-27-2013, 02:39 PM	#59 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	While the Jeep Cherokee is NOT what I'm looking at. I think it's going to be a good value for a trail-rated vehicle by comparison. I guess I look at this vehicle like the glass half full vs half empty. lol __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

03-27-2013, 09:21 PM	#60 (permalink)
Sibze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16,202 Drives: In your way Rep Power: 63	I own a 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland with the same interior posted in the last page. It is (without including the Z) my favorite vehicle I've ever owned. Love love love when it snows and love taking it off road. With the Quadra-Lift system, it's a real show off being able to raise and lower the truck with a push of a button. It has great power, great looks (I don't like the 14 personally) and the interior is amazing. The sheep leather is soft, smells amazing and looks great! Took it out the last big snow fall. Drove by an H2 that was stuck without an issue and lots of other "SUVs" who thought they could handle the snow. I tried to get it stuck, drove through drifts and any high points of snow I could and I couldn't get it stuck. Extremely happy with my jeep and would buy it again tomorrow. __________________ RIP Tony.

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