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m4a1mustang

Believe me, I know what Jeeps are about. I just think this one is fugly.

The Wrangler and Grand Cherokee look good, however.

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UNKNOWN_370

I don't think I've placed a direct opinion on looks yet. But Looks wise the other two are much stronger.

Oh jumpin' back in quick. I test drove the Grand Cherokee overland summit. All I can say is WOW!!!!

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Ziggyman

Went to turn in lease this past Monday and they had a used 2012 overland on the lot. Black metalflake, with a brown interior, really sweet.

UNKNOWN_370

I test drove it and loved it. I want to get one. I bought my wife's altima straight out so I have Good equity in that car for a trade or to sell. I've always wanted to get into off-roading. Just never had the time and money. Sports cars and jeeps? lol Money pit. I wouldn't mind a Grand Cherokee limited or Wrangler. I love the comfort/ability of the cherokee. i love the versatility/ruggedness of the wrangler. Also, the Wrangler is more affordable in full on, Off road guise.

But now I'm even nervous to buy one with Red's comments. Maybe I need to do more research on Jeep vehicles before plunging in.

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Red__Zed

If you want to get into off-roading, buy an XJ Cherokee. It's more capable than the Wrangler, which surprises most people. It's cheap, the 4.0L engine is bulletproof, and if you put a rock through the oil pan, you did it on a $4000 car, not a $40,000 car.

Cmike2780

I had an 89 XJ. It was bulletproof until it caught fire on the interstate. I poured thousands into that thing to get it reliable....didn't work. The XJ's are great, especially when modified, but they don't come anywhere close to the cj/tj platform in extreme off road capability with modifications. For one, the xj is a unibody. That in itself is very limiting for off road use. It does win in terms of versatility and usability, which are huge factors for doing other stuf besides off roading.

OP, check out the Moab Easter Jeep Safari concepts for the real badass looking jeeps.

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Red__Zed

For pretty much anything that resembles a budget build, the XJ tends to be a better route....a lot of that has to do with cost of entry. Unibody is kind of misleading, since the body welded rather than bolted on. it's much more beefy than most people realize. A couple of stiffeners usually get the chassis where it needs to be for more serious off-roading.

I've never seen the unibody become a limitation, even in extreme trails. There's a lot of guys that do things in XJs when the TJs and YJs turn around. You'll see a lot on forums about fatiguing the unibody and not being able to replace it, but by the point that occurs, you've generally destroyed something else on the car, not to mention I would just as quickly shift base cars as I'd shift frames.

What reliability issues did you have? I think I owned three that all went well beyond 250k and were sold running.

Fringe capability is arguably better (ie, wrangler has more favorable approach angles, but double whammy at Moab is far easier to manage in a cherokee), but for most first-time off-roaders, the lower cost of entry in the XJ means enough left over for the parts you need. YMMV.

I've owned 3 XJs and a tj. Loved all of them, but the xj is far cheaper, and when there are major wheelin' expenses coming--not to mention a sharp learning curve--cheaper is better.