BRZ, Don't challenge me in your RWD version of a Corolla!!!!

JungleZ

I don't think Clarkson hated on it because of reliability more like because hes comparing it to the more expensive refined Z4, of course thats going to be more comfortable and classier than the Z but it was a stupid comparison. I dont think Z4 buyers would even consider the Z.

Cmike2780

That's because the Z4 is a girl's car

seriously though, the Z4 is nice, but it's not that impressive. I'd rather go for the 3 series. Not to mention BMW's are crap in terms of reliability. They're great new cars, but I always hesistate buying a used one. Too many bad stories.

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UNKNOWN_370

Agreed. If the Z is GT sports? Then the Z4 is straight GT. It's a smooth little, great handling car. But the Z makes for a more entertaining and serious feeling sports car.

RonZwanson

If I remember right, Clarkson didn't HATE the 370. He hated the 350. His comments on the 370 were that he liked the performance, but it was too rough around the edges for his old British arse. (Engine noise, stiff ride) That's what a lot of senior citizens say about it. If you're used to driving around in a Benz, then yeah, the Z is going to be like driving a box truck in terms of comfort.

I agree that the Z4 is kind of a nancy car. It's BMW's Miata. May be a great driving car, but it definitely lacks macho appeal.

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cheshirecat

Eh, from what I've seen, it really depends on the model. Each one has their own issues. Earlier versions of i-drive are an absolute nightmare.

IMO, the 135 as well as the 335 is an excellent car, especially the earlier models with the straight-six twin turbo. Forged internals from the factory, completely bulletproof engine.

Ziggyman

Had a Z4 now have a Z. Can't really compare though, unless you had an M it was really made for top down cruising. Tramlining was a big issue as well, but to be fair, I over sized the tires. A nice performing Z4 that performs similar to a Z is $60K now.