Why is Ford doing more than Nissan?

b1adesofcha0s

I drove an 06 and loved it. My friend kept trying to convince me to buy it whenever I put my foot down

Would have totally done it if it wasn't an out of warranty bmw M car.

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shadoquad

Word, maintenance costs are heavy

Chuck33079

Yeah. Get the extended warranty.

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Rooster89

So I'm assuming we are just focusing on comparing the companies rather than the age old paper racing of the z and 5.0.

So as a former ford employee, I must remind everyone that while ford is doing rather phenomenal in the North American and European markets, they are doing quite terrible in the Asian markets as they have no true chinese partner, unlike GM/VW etc.

Never forget nissan was never expected to live. They were pretty much set to die, very similar to the american car companies, but they turned it around. The fact that they are doing as well as they are, is really a testament Carlos Ghosn. Never forget how beloved his is in japan for turning the company around and making them profitable. Although the 370z didn't sell well, other vehicles are.

Granted Ford and VW are experiencing steroid like growth recently, so comparing any other company to them outside of toyota wouldn't be fair.

All car companies are pretty amazing, even if its just for one or two vehicles that are better than their sales show (looking at you volvo and Saab)

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Ziggyman

I look at it as a great time to be a car guy. The bar is raised all the time! I admit that I put considerable value on exclusivity. I shopped the Z against used Caymans, 135s, and Audi TTs. Never really thought about Mustang or Camaro, not because they not great performance bargains, they are, just so freakin many of them.

For me it's really about having a fun car, that's purpose built, to do what it does well, and I think the Z checks the boxes for me in that regard.

cossie1600

Buy a Porsche or Ferrari if you care about traditions. Nissan makes more money selling Altimas than Zs, they don't care about you

Shamu

Hmmmm? Nissan/Datsun have no Motorsports tradition? Think I'd argue that. Porsche makes more money selling SUVs and Sedans in China than sports cars!

I applaud nissan for not making crappy econobox tuner cars and focusing on real performance cars.

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cossie1600

That was what, 40 years ago? They are just trying to get back in because Toyota did well last year at LeMans. Are you going to tell me Infiniti's sponsorship to the Redbull F1 team is commitment to motorsports?

Porsche did okay without the SUVs, now they just have more cash to crazy things with cars. With everything said, 911 is still around after all these years as one of the car to have in different types of racing.

UNKNOWN_370

Super GT 2013: NISMO Eyes New Season - YouTube
You're being a little rough on Nissan. And it sucks that we can't talk about what upsets us about Nissan without attempting to make an onslaught of over-bashing. In spite of my personal complaints and being upset with certain aspects of Z progress... It's still a sick performer on the road regardless.

Race History 1

HISTORY OF THE NISSAN SKYLINE

Drivers, Teams & Suppliers Eye 2013 Super GT Start - Nissan Online Newsroom

Shamu

Are you serious? Nissan has always had serious commitment to motorsports? From Datsun Roadster, to 510 that dominated series to 240 Z to 260 to 280 to the 300 to 350 and now 370. many many wins all over the world in many different series. they make totyota look silly in that respect. Then there were all skyline GTRs over history. Very significant heritage of being a car company involved in motorsports and they have announced even more support now.

Porsche ....uhhh I mean VWs recent commercial success hasnt been from its sports cars. If German government hadn't given Porsche 1.7 billion loan and VW hadn't bought them they wouldn't be here right now! Porsche was also on brink of bankruptcy in 90s. Now they are VW brand selling way more SUVs, Sedans not what made Porsche the sportscar namesake in 1950s to 1980s.

Good news though VW/ Porsche are about to introduce a new more affordable sporty spice SUV.

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UNKNOWN_370

You're right, but VW and porsche started off from the same designing crew anyway. They found a way to sport up the world war 2 beetle design and that's how porsche was created.

cossie1600

What series did the 370 or 350 or 300 dominate? 350 Spec Class? Skylines were great, but they were in limited marketing and had limited exposure. I am curious to see how it performs in GT3 with the McLaren.

You said it yourself, Porsche tried true and hard in selling just sports cars and it had a tough time. There is no way Nissan would dump the Sentras and Altimas and just sell Zs and GTRs. Even with all the struggles, they never stopped making the 911.

triggaZ

Fact that Ford is being debated here vs Nissan is a real testament to the company.

They're doing great things nowadays and consumers are starting to realize that.

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ZMan8

You can't seriously compare the Evo x to a gtr...

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b1adesofcha0s

Well looks are really subjective.....

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