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Seems like ford is doing way more things than Nissan and offering more sporty cars now at a better price... Nissan needs to step their game up!

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Seems like ford is doing way more things than Nissan and offering more sporty cars now at a better price... Nissan needs to step their game up!
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Haven't you heard.. Nissan is going to race an electric car
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Seems like ford is doing way more things than Nissan and offering more sporty cars now at a better price... Nissan needs to step their game up!
Because they are a more profitable company and can and will afford it and Nissan either cannot, or won't afford it.
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Ford has the resources and has had this stuff in place for a long time. Nissan has been very laissez-faire about supporting their performance divisions. Though it seems like they are trying to step it up now.

And like IC said, Ford can afford it.
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Ford has the resources and has had this stuff in place for a long time. Nissan has been very laissez-faire about supporting their performance divisions. Though it seems like they are trying to step it up now.

And like IC said, Ford can afford it.
Ford pulled their head from their arse sometime after I stopped working for a Ford dealer in 2005, and actually got things rolling. They began trimming weight, developing exponentially better drivelines vs. "minor revisions" and stealing technology from one line to "kinda sorta" adapt into the other (3V heads from the 5.4L trucks evolved onto a 4.6L engine and shoved into the mustang, what crap!).

Ford is being run RIGHT, and it shows. I cannot wait for the 2015 mustang GT. I am probably going to trade my Z for the 2016 model (I just have a "thing" about first year-model ground-up new platforms).

Anyway, Ford is still recovering from the BS of their last administration. Wait until they unveil replacements for their line in the mid and latter part of this decade when they have had a chance to re-do them from the ground-up. Look at how much they accomplished in 2010 and then 2011 with the mustang!? Still using the same chassis, even. They are going to sweep the floor in their market segment.
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They have the focus st, fiesta st, mustang v6, gt

Nissan has a 38k sport car barely faster than a 1998 camaro..
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They have the focus st, fiesta st, mustang v6, gt
that i dont want.

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Seems like ford is doing way more things than Nissan and offering more sporty cars now at a better price... Nissan needs to step their game up!
And Nissan cares why?
They make money and profit with their current strategy. As long as they continue to operate well into the green why should they do anything different?
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And Nissan cares why?
They make money and profit with their current strategy. As long as they continue to operate well into the green why should they do anything different?
So they can rebuild their performance image and make even more money.
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So they can rebuild their performance image and make even more money.
That would require a direction, I do see them trying with investing in the Nismo brand and attempting some racing leagues. I just hope there is an actual path & goal set, not just throwing money around.
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All I'm saying is Nissan needs to stay closer to 30k for bang for your buck type cars
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All I'm saying is Nissan needs to stay closer to 30k for bang for your buck type cars
Nissan needs to do a better job on what they have and they will do fine. It's not style they lack but substance.
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All I'm saying is Nissan needs to stay closer to 30k for bang for your buck type cars
tell the world to stop f-king with the JPY then so nissan (and rest of japan) can give what they truely want on a fair playing ground.
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Lets keep it real. Ford has HAD to step up on quality tremendously. Something most japanese automakers haven't had to work much on for nearly a decade. As good as american car quality has grown. Japanese cars still have a slight edge in overall quality. Up until 2008, most american cars had been complete POS's for over 2 decades. The american market performed what I call nothing short of a miracle with their Shytboxmobiles...

The american market has always known one thing the Japanese have to learn a little better... Halo cars sell all cars in the short term. If you have a flagship and halo sports car that's top notch? You will sell cars regardless. You're on the cover of C&D, motorweek, automobile, Road &Track on the reg. You will push the biggest POS out of your lot. Guys will buy in hopes of one day trading for that hot vette, stang etc.

What America has learned from Asia. Halo cars can only go so far in overall car sales in the long term. Eventually. People realize sports cars aren't as practical as they need and start demanding quality. That's where Honda, Nissan etc have been winning these two decades. America is on it's 5th model year of great featured high quality cars. But it wasn't done on purely american merit. It was done by the aid of Asian and German market. You can thank Honda, Toyota, Mazda and Mitsubishi for most of the american breakthrough's in it compact car market success. Opel, Renault, Fiat, Alfa etc have also fueled compact and midsize success... There's been a sharing of tech and it's made the Global car market more competitive. Nissan is the one of the least globalized companies right now

Ford is doing great things. Nissan is not doing as well right now. But there's a lot of political shyt going on in the market playing into that. Nissan is attempting to go delve deeper in the global market. We will have to wait till 2015 to see exactly how nissan is doing... They most of the time pull a fast one on the general public. Just when you think they are beginning to suck??? Bam!!!!

That said. What i been seeing from nissan so far scares me. lol Let's see.
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Ya that's all I'm saying is what I've seen so far scares me! I mean I don't mind getting smoked by v8 mustangs that cost less but at least give us some more cars with beefier options if you're gonna be sporty.
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