The car most enthusiasts still sleep on

zguynate

The Gen Coupe may not be at the top of the list, but like I said before, Hyundai is stepping up and definitely did a good job at their first sports car entry. The interior is cheap because the 3.8 r spec is priced a good 4k under the base 370z. Sure they need some more refining, it's rare that someone gets it perfect the first time.

To be fair, at the "spend my thousands wisely" statement, I have had issues with the steering lock and CSC on the Z with 28k miles. The Genesis has been problem free for me for 30k miles. Don't take that the wrong way, I love my Z to death! The Z is still the better car, but the Z is far from perfect as well.

If the Genesis Coupe, sitting as is, had another company's badge on it, it would receive more praise than it does. But because its a Hyundai, it still has a negative stigma that people refuse to get over.

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2009 370z touring w/sports package

FairladyZ

I just went on the website, the 3.8 track model is close to 34k

That isn't much far behind a z, sti, evo, Camaro, mustang.

zguynate

The track model is the "fully loaded" lol. Youre comparing that to the price of a base Z. Thats apples to oranges.

Genesis Coupe 3.8 R-Spec:
MSRP $28750
348hp/295tq
19 inch alloy wheels
Torsen LSD
Brembo Brakes

370Z base with sport:
MSRP $36150
336hp/260tq
19 inch Rays (Awesome)
LSD
Akebono's
Synchro rev

Thats a little over 7k difference if you compare apples to apples. There is a reason why the wheels arent forged, and the interior isnt quite as nice. As far as the actual performance of the cars, the 370z has almost 40 years of experience behind its engineering. The Genesis is Hyundais first real sports car, they have some bugs to work out.

The 370z really isnt a competitor anyhow, just using it as comparison.

Hyundai is in the process of proving themselves atm imo.

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2009 370z touring w/sports package

Compdoc777

370z not even the Nismo. Best comparison to the Gensis coupe.

The car's performance potential was further confirmed at the track, with the Z posting a more than respectable 4.8-second 0-60 mph time, and completing the quarter-mile in 13.4 seconds at 105.6 mph. That's faster than the 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 we recently tested, which posted a 5.2-second 0-60 and a 13.9-second quarter-mile at 102.2 mph. The Nissan required 106 feet to brake from 60-0 mph, and averaged an impressive 0.99 g in lateral acceleration, beating out the heavier, track pack-equipped 2013 Mustang V-6 Premium's 60-0 stopping performance of 110 feet and a skidpad average of 0.95 g. With its figure-eight result of 25.1 seconds at an average 0.74 g, the Z proved it's still an agile handler.

Read more: 2012 Nissan 370Z First Drive - Motor Trend

FairladyZ

You guys keep restating what I'm saying


They are the new kids on the block, it takes time to sway people's mind. Doesn't happen over night, all my posts have been trying to convey this yet you don't understand.

Nissan has history, subaru has history, honda has history, mitsubishi has history, Toyota has history, ford and Chevy has history, is that **** hard to understand??

Feel free to hop on board, cause I won't any time soon lol

Red__Zed

Yes, this sounds like "they're the new kids on the block, let's see if they prove themselves"

zguynate

At what point would you consider them proven? What exactly does a car have to show to be proven? There are still Mustang and Vette guys out there that are still waiting for Honda, Toyota, and Nissan to prove themselves.

You can stay on the Hyundai hating bandwagon. It's ok, everyone's doing it. The point of this thread was to say that the car is overlooked and underestimated by the mass, which it is. Sure it doesn't perform as good as the others, but it's thousands less, what do you expect? With a few mods its a really fun car to drive, which is really all that matters.

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2009 370z touring w/sports package

UNKNOWN_370

First you have to compare the right two models, as you did.
Then do the pricing math... and for shyts and giggles throw in the 2.0 turbo rspec pricing which is like $26k'ish? then factor 10kdeficit from Z pricing and convert it to turbo mods on a pre-plumbed F.I. motor??? I mean, there's potential in these cars for tuners, in spite of... (just playing devils advocate)
That 2.0 may be a threat to automotive society in the right mechanics hands???

b1adesofcha0s

I mean look how much Ford improved their quality in the last like 2-3 years. I know they were an already established brand, but they improved the quality of their cars greatly in the past couple years.

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Rui Z

It's the fact that you said 'I will never buy a car with a crooked........EVER..........EVER'

That means you are unwilling to EVER let them prove themselves. That's an old school close-minded mentality

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FairladyZ

But it's the truth, that's my personal decision, don't get offended by that.

If you are willing to give them the chance, feel free. Let them prove their worth to you. I hope you don't let those numbers on paper sway you so easily lol

kenchan

and that's 100% okay if there are plenty of other cars out there. why marry an garlic breath girl if there are plenty of pretty ones out there that dont stink.

wheee!

I try to keep an open mind about all cars/brands. My daughter drives a Mustang, my son drives a Dodge 1500, my other son a 528i, my wife a Veloster Turbo and I have an MKX for DD...

What it all boils down to is whether or not the vehicle meets the needs of the driver and whether that vehicle is a good value. This includes warranty, style, performance, quality, reliability and everything else factored in. I will consider every possible vehicle when buying a new car, and narrow it down based on my previous stated needs, desires, etc.

In the end, I bought the Hyundai based on features, quality, performance, price, economy and style. I am very satisfied with the purchase and have nothing bad to say about the brand so far. For a fully loaded car that rivals others that cost thousands more, I believe I got a great value for my dollar.

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6MT

Fair enough. But I've seen far too many Hyundai's go through our shop. And I've sold countless parts over the years for them, that my view is a little tainted. You get the feel for that. I'll give them about another five years or so. If their quality remains and their reliability is half decent (not like the past 10 years). Then, I would consider them. Until then, I can't give them any respect.

Time will tell.

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Andrew

2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold
2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D

wheee!

You make a very valid point Andy, but I would not have touched the Hyundai's from 5 years ago let alone 10.... Today's version seems to have learned a little from it's past. I too will have to wait and see how it does in the long term. In the meantime, it has an excellent warranty which I hope I don't have to use!...

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