I test drove a CTSV

Z-Girl 12 · 12-05-2012, 05:39 PM

The coupe is so sexy...if my pockets were deep enuff I'd def rock the coupe. Nice choice though! Congrats!

DCNISMO · 12-05-2012, 08:42 PM

Your not going to get a low mileage 2 nd generation V with those options for 37k, as you suggest that's not going to happen. If you do, post a copy of that bill of sale. That's silly. It's supply and demand. A low miles 1st generation V might go for that with the 5.7 liter engine. I'll gladly say I overpaid 7 k when you post an actual bill of sale from a real dealer.

zmojo · 12-05-2012, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO

Your not going to get a low mileage 2 nd generation V with those options for 37k, as you suggest that's not going to happen. If you do, post a copy of that bill of sale. That's silly. It's supply and demand. A low miles 1st generation V might go for that with the 5.7 liter engine. I'll gladly say I overpaid 7 k when you post an actual bill of sale from a real dealer.

Simple facts, look up the prices on New Cars, Used Cars, Car Reviews and Pricing - Edmunds.com

When a dealer buys your car they never give you no more than wholesale value in most cases and then make huge profits by trying to sell your trade in at full retail.

When you buy a used car you have to calculate the deal using what the actual wholesale value of your trade in is and what you could buy the new used car you want for a clean deal cash value. Then the dealer should only make around $1000-$2000 on the total deal in profit.

RoshDawg · 12-05-2012, 10:23 PM

DCNISMO! CONGRATS! I do not believe you overpaid, and you got a good trade in value as well! Also I remember reading a long term test of the CTS V by (I think) Car and Driver. They only had absolutely amazing things to say about it and never ran into any problems. I bet that thing hauls ***!

RoshDawg · 12-05-2012, 10:27 PM

Found it!
2011 Cadillac CTS-V Wagon Long-Term Test – Review – Car and Driver

DCNISMO · 12-06-2012, 12:12 PM

V wagons are pretty rare, even more if its a manual 6 speed.

DCNISMO · 12-06-2012, 12:18 PM

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When you buy a used car you have to calculate the deal using what the actual wholesale value of your trade in is and what you could buy the new used car you want for a clean deal cash value. Then the dealer should only make around $1000-$2000 on the total deal in profit.

Well, I don't deal in shoulds and show me that bill of sale..... I fully know they make more money on used car sales than new ones. For some cars maybe you can get that deal you described, but its not going to happen to a high dollar luxury car....maybe for a Sentra or Civic, sure. They had two offers on the V when I got there, but I was the first one to cut a check and do a deal.

zmojo · 12-06-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO

Well, I don't deal in shoulds and show me that bill of sale..... I fully know they make more money on used car sales than new ones. For some cars maybe you can get that deal you described, but its not going to happen to a high dollar luxury car....maybe for a Sentra or Civic, sure. They had two offers on the V when I got there, but I was the first one to cut a check and do a deal.

Basic dealer BS if they had firm offers for the car then they would have been under contract and couldn't sell it to you.
When you buy a used car you have to factor in that, if you had to sell the car the very next day, what could you unload it for with in 48hrs.

The cars worth $31500 - $36000 max, nothing about would, could or show me, just simple buying practices.

Red__Zed · 12-06-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by zmojo

Basic dealer BS if they had firm offers for the car then they would have been under contract and couldn't sell it to you.
When you buy a used car you have to factor in that, if you had to sell the car the very next day, what could you unload it for with in 48hrs.

The cars worth $31500 - $36000 max, nothing about would, could or show me, just simple buying practices.

Are you offering to sell one in that range?

zmojo · 12-06-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Are you offering to sell one in that range?

Nothing special about the car, you have to remember its a 4 yr. old GM car and price it accordingly. If you can't get the car, for the price you want, then you walk, let someone else pay the high price if they really want it.

Red__Zed · 12-06-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by zmojo

Nothing special about the car, you have to remember its a 4 yr. old GM car and price it accordingly. If you can't get the car, for the price you want, then you walk, let someone else pay the high price if they really want it.

I'll give you a $1k finders fee if you can hook me up.

Ubetit · 12-06-2012, 01:54 PM

Obvious troll is obvious

newyen27 · 12-06-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by zmojo

Basic dealer BS if they had firm offers for the car then they would have been under contract and couldn't sell it to you.
When you buy a used car you have to factor in that, if you had to sell the car the very next day, what could you unload it for with in 48hrs.

The cars worth $31500 - $36000 max, nothing about would, could or show me, just simple buying practices.

He's already bought the car and is happy with it - that's all that matters. What are you trying to prove by insisting he overpaid? He obviously didn't care the first time you said it. You're obviously not trying to help anyone out here, and it seems to me like you're jealous.

Can we agree that it's an amazing car, congratulate him, and leave it at that?

RoshDawg · 12-06-2012, 02:38 PM

Zmojo, I mean this in no offense, but can you leave this thread?

zmojo · 12-06-2012, 02:50 PM

Good luck, with you car, not trying to trash your purchase, just going thru the numbers.

Drive it and enjoy it.

12-05-2012, 05:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
Z-Girl 12 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 4,105 Drives: Spirited Rep Power: 11718	The coupe is so sexy...if my pockets were deep enuff I'd def rock the coupe. Nice choice though! Congrats! __________________ 2012 Z-SOLD 2014 Nismo #565 Fast Intentions CBE/HFC/Swift/SPC/RJM/H&R-15/20mm/Z1 CAI/Headers/Intake Manifold w/Uprev Tune 328.31whp/263.64tq

12-05-2012, 10:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
RoshDawg Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: NM / CA Posts: 981 Drives: '13 911 C2S Rep Power: 17	DCNISMO! CONGRATS! I do not believe you overpaid, and you got a good trade in value as well! Also I remember reading a long term test of the CTS V by (I think) Car and Driver. They only had absolutely amazing things to say about it and never ran into any problems. I bet that thing hauls ***! __________________ \| EVO X MR \| '11 WRX STI \| 370Z SPRT \| 911 (991) C2S \|

12-05-2012, 10:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
RoshDawg Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: NM / CA Posts: 981 Drives: '13 911 C2S Rep Power: 17	Found it! 2011 Cadillac CTS-V Wagon Long-Term Test – Review – Car and Driver __________________ \| EVO X MR \| '11 WRX STI \| 370Z SPRT \| 911 (991) C2S \|

12-06-2012, 01:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ubetit Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 527 Drives: the women lazy Rep Power: 16	Obvious troll is obvious m4a1mustang likes this.

12-06-2012, 02:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
RoshDawg Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: NM / CA Posts: 981 Drives: '13 911 C2S Rep Power: 17	Zmojo, I mean this in no offense, but can you leave this thread? __________________ \| EVO X MR \| '11 WRX STI \| 370Z SPRT \| 911 (991) C2S \|

12-05-2012, 08:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 180	Your not going to get a low mileage 2 nd generation V with those options for 37k, as you suggest that's not going to happen. If you do, post a copy of that bill of sale. That's silly. It's supply and demand. A low miles 1st generation V might go for that with the 5.7 liter engine. I'll gladly say I overpaid 7 k when you post an actual bill of sale from a real dealer.

12-06-2012, 12:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 180	V wagons are pretty rare, even more if its a manual 6 speed.

12-06-2012, 02:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
zmojo Base Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: southwest Posts: 23 Drives: 2013 copper orange Rep Power: 14	Good luck, with you car, not trying to trash your purchase, just going thru the numbers. Drive it and enjoy it.

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