Should I trade my Z For a Shelby or 5.0

FromG2Z · 11-16-2011, 01:47 PM

crap I gotta figure it out before heading home.

b1adesofcha0s · 11-16-2011, 02:04 PM

Ok so let me know if this plan makes sense or if it's just completely retarded.

If all goes well in my job search I should be working full time by Summer 2012 and can start looking at cars in the fall/winter, let's assume a purchase time of January 2013. Now the end goal for me is to buy a GT-R like 3 years later, say January 2016. I can either keep the Z in that time or buy another car.

Option 1: Sell the Z in January 2016, when it will be ~7 yrs old and with estimated 100k miles. I'm assuming I drive around 15k miles per year. I could then sell it for around $10-12k (based in 2004-2005 350Z prices). This would give me a $10-12k down payment on the GT-R.

Option 2: Sell the Z January 2013 for around $20-22k and buy a new car for $35k. So I would spend like $10-15k extra on the new car. Then I could sell that car in 2016 at 3 yrs old and 45k miles for around $20-25k. Subtract from that the money I lost from buying the new car and I have like $10-15k to spend on the GT-R.

Damn I didn't expect those numbers to come out the same. Of course I know this is a really rough estimate and their are too many factors involved to predict this accurately. Does the logic somewhat make sense it am I embracing my inner ImportConvert a little too much?

Red__Zed · 11-16-2011, 03:16 PM

No matter how you massage the numbers, 2 plus 2 still equals "time to buy a 5.0"

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Ok so let me know if this plan makes sense or if it's just completely retarded.

If all goes well in my job search I should be working full time by Summer 2012 and can start looking at cars in the fall/winter, let's assume a purchase time of January 2013. Now the end goal for me is to buy a GT-R like 3 years later, say January 2016. I can either keep the Z in that time or buy another car.

Option 1: Sell the Z in January 2016, when it will be ~7 yrs old and with estimated 100k miles. I'm assuming I drive around 15k miles per year. I could then sell it for around $10-12k (based in 2004-2005 350Z prices). This would give me a $10-12k down payment on the GT-R.

Option 2: Sell the Z January 2013 for around $20-22k and buy a new car for $35k. So I would spend like $10-15k extra on the new car. Then I could sell that car in 2016 at 3 yrs old and 45k miles for around $20-25k. Subtract from that the money I lost from buying the new car and I have like $10-15k to spend on the GT-R.

Damn I didn't expect those numbers to come out the same. Of course I know this is a really rough estimate and their are too many factors involved to predict this accurately. Does the logic somewhat make sense it am I embracing my inner ImportConvert a little too much?

b1adesofcha0s · 11-16-2011, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

No matter how you massage the numbers, 2 plus 2 still equals "time to buy a 5.0"

My thoughts exactly

Lemers · 11-16-2011, 06:33 PM

Here's the plan. Go big! Get the biggest house loan and get a loan for that GTR then declare bankruptcy. Protect your homestead and transportation. You would get a loan for the next seven years but hell ou have a house and drive a GTR who the F cares.

Lemers · 11-16-2011, 06:39 PM

I didn't see anything about autos yet. So I say no. That would have been a big deal and includes in the press release.

FromG2Z · 11-16-2011, 11:09 PM

Lemers, you read my prior posts??? 5.0 ftw!

Also, I already have the mod bug. Barely 24 hours into ownership, a car that had only 6.8 miles yesterday afternoon, now has 70 or so, and a new exhaust! Let the MODDING BEGIN!!! MGW shifter next... in box waiting for me.

Install time should have been less than 2 hours, but I spent some time straightening out the exhaust pipe that connects to the over the axle pipes. It seemed to have been bent through shipping, etc. Fixed that up, then finished the install. Figuring out how to best tackle the exhaust hanger bolts was the key. Starting from the driver side, I was much quicker on the passenger side. Essentially, loosed the rear end bolts, then loosen the clamp, then loosen the remaining exhaust hangar bolts, and voila! Repeat on other side.

Impressions: I made sure the tips lined up evenly front to back, side to side.... I like the single walled tips. Reminds me of older muscle cars... aggressive. Start up was great! Noticeable louder than stock, but in a deep throatier way. Wife walks in to garage as I asked her to help step on the gas as I check for leaks. She goes, "That's scary!"... LOL. I looked at her with puzzlement. I took it to mean it sounds beefier.

Took her for a spin, and I love it. It's not too loud and not too soft, as expected. It's the goldilocks of exhausts... juuuuuuust right.

For those of you looking for a great exhaust (factory too, might I add), that is a little more aggressive than stock, but not obnoxiously loud, look no further than the GT500's.

Here's a 2 minute or so video I shot tonight... I tried not to wake the neighbors too much... Dan, if this video doesn't convince you to get these puppies, not sure what will

I love them!!! They're louder than Invidias for sure!!! Be sure to watch it in HD!!!

GZ3 · 11-17-2011, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Lemers, you read my prior posts??? 5.0 ftw!

Also, I already have the mod bug. Barely 24 hours into ownership, a car that had only 6.8 miles yesterday afternoon, now has 70 or so, and a new exhaust! Let the MODDING BEGIN!!! MGW shifter next... in box waiting for me.

Install time should have been less than 2 hours, but I spent some time straightening out the exhaust pipe that connects to the over the axle pipes. It seemed to have been bent through shipping, etc. Fixed that up, then finished the install. Figuring out how to best tackle the exhaust hanger bolts was the key. Starting from the driver side, I was much quicker on the passenger side. Essentially, loosed the rear end bolts, then loosen the clamp, then loosen the remaining exhaust hangar bolts, and voila! Repeat on other side.

Impressions: I made sure the tips lined up evenly front to back, side to side.... I like the single walled tips. Reminds me of older muscle cars... aggressive. Start up was great! Noticeable louder than stock, but in a deep throatier way. Wife walks in to garage as I asked her to help step on the gas as I check for leaks. She goes, "That's scary!"... LOL. I looked at her with puzzlement. I took it to mean it sounds beefier.

Took her for a spin, and I love it. It's not too loud and not too soft, as expected. It's the goldilocks of exhausts... juuuuuuust right.

For those of you looking for a great exhaust (factory too, might I add), that is a little more aggressive than stock, but not obnoxiously loud, look no further than the GT500's.

Here's a 2 minute or so video I shot tonight... I tried not to wake the neighbors too much... Dan, if this video doesn't convince you to get these puppies, not sure what will

I love them!!! They're louder than Invidias for sure!!! Be sure to watch it in HD!!!

dude congrats...! i finally got the GT500 mufflers and they the best sound axelback... i ditched my offroad H cause it was ungodly loud for my taste...going insted with high flow catted X.....

FromG2Z · 11-17-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

dude congrats...! i finally got the GT500 mufflers and they the best sound axelback... i ditched my offroad H cause it was ungodly loud for my taste...going insted with high flow catted X.....

Thanks man... this car is a dream. Also, I love the gt500's... what you think?

GZ3 · 11-17-2011, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Thanks man... this car is a dream. Also, I love the gt500's... what you think?

sounds great man! if you want to improve on that deep tone, get an intake too plus the gains from it are really good.

I have a buddy here in SA that has JLT cai, ford racing clamp on X pipe(uses stock cats) gt500 mufflers, and a tune....he ran last week 11.6@ 117!! disgusting! ohh slicks too sorry

but damn

b1adesofcha0s · 11-17-2011, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GZ3

sounds great man! if you want to improve on that deep tone, get an intake too plus the gains from it are really good.

I have a buddy here in SA that has JLT cai, ford racing clamp on X pipe(uses stock cats) gt500 mufflers, and a tune....he ran last week 11.6@ 117!! disgusting! ohh slicks too sorry

but damn

FromG2Z · 11-17-2011, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GZ3

sounds great man! if you want to improve on that deep tone, get an intake too plus the gains from it are really good.

I have a buddy here in SA that has JLT cai, ford racing clamp on X pipe(uses stock cats) gt500 mufflers, and a tune....he ran last week 11.6@ 117!! disgusting! ohh slicks too sorry

but damn

Yeah, I think cai is next on list... I just wish there was a warrantied tune. I think FRPP has one too. I want to try to stick with FRPP stuff so I don't void anything... but those Steeda springs look fantastic.

Yeah GTR is great car but... call me old school, but maybe too techy for me. Maybe I'm getting old

Besides, I need a manual tranny! hehe

Lemers · 11-16-2011, 11:43 PM

Yes I saw that you got your 5.0. You really seem to like it. I'm glad. After looking at everything ford just put out I'm leaning toward a 2013 Shelby if ford doesn't jack the price. If they do jack the price I'll probably do a 2013 5.0 with a factory SC.

Nismoracer · 11-17-2011, 12:21 AM

If ford doesnt jack the price the dealers will. Went to look at a boss and they wanted $55k. Dont know what they are thinking. 2013 shelby would be the answer to satisfy your power needs but if you want something a little more practical, plusher ride and extra bills to spend on anything else...get a 5.0. At first you will only be slightly impressed by the seat of the pants meter. It will snap your head back slightly. Then you will get a CAI +TUNE and at least an axle back cuz you want it to sound mean. You will be very impressed and you wont stop grinning from ear to ear. And your passenger will keep hitting their head on the headrest when you punch it. And then you'll find the easter eggs and run around in sport mode. Maybe in the future i'll want a SC but for now , pretty happy with my setup. And there many aftermarket goodies to customize if you wanna make it look unique.

Lug · 11-17-2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Nismoracer

If ford doesnt jack the price the dealers will. Went to look at a boss and they wanted $55k. Dont know what they are thinking.

Varys wildly from dealer to dealer. I've seen a couple of cases on another forum where the Boss was had at MSRP. You just got to ignore the old school tactics of some car dealers and find one that understands this economy.

11-16-2011, 01:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
FromG2Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fields of Opportunities Posts: 1,406 Drives: '12 5.0, kona, 6MT Rep Power: 19	crap I gotta figure it out before heading home. __________________ 2012 5.0 GT Prem, Kona Blue, 6MT, HID, Brembo, 3.73 -- Ordered: 9/20/11, Born on: 10/20/11, Delivered 11/15/11"Marilyn" GT500 mufflers/flaps, MGW shifter, FRPP K springs, BMR panhard bar, Boss coil covers, 3DC spoiler, Llumar Tint (35% and 20%), 3M ClearBra

11-16-2011, 02:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 143	Ok so let me know if this plan makes sense or if it's just completely retarded. If all goes well in my job search I should be working full time by Summer 2012 and can start looking at cars in the fall/winter, let's assume a purchase time of January 2013. Now the end goal for me is to buy a GT-R like 3 years later, say January 2016. I can either keep the Z in that time or buy another car. Option 1: Sell the Z in January 2016, when it will be ~7 yrs old and with estimated 100k miles. I'm assuming I drive around 15k miles per year. I could then sell it for around $10-12k (based in 2004-2005 350Z prices). This would give me a $10-12k down payment on the GT-R. Option 2: Sell the Z January 2013 for around $20-22k and buy a new car for $35k. So I would spend like $10-15k extra on the new car. Then I could sell that car in 2016 at 3 yrs old and 45k miles for around $20-25k. Subtract from that the money I lost from buying the new car and I have like $10-15k to spend on the GT-R. Damn I didn't expect those numbers to come out the same. Of course I know this is a really rough estimate and their are too many factors involved to predict this accurately. Does the logic somewhat make sense it am I embracing my inner ImportConvert a little too much? __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

11-16-2011, 06:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 54	Here's the plan. Go big! Get the biggest house loan and get a loan for that GTR then declare bankruptcy. Protect your homestead and transportation. You would get a loan for the next seven years but hell ou have a house and drive a GTR who the F cares. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

11-16-2011, 06:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 54	I didn't see anything about autos yet. So I say no. That would have been a big deal and includes in the press release. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

11-16-2011, 11:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
FromG2Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fields of Opportunities Posts: 1,406 Drives: '12 5.0, kona, 6MT Rep Power: 19	Lemers, you read my prior posts??? 5.0 ftw! Also, I already have the mod bug. Barely 24 hours into ownership, a car that had only 6.8 miles yesterday afternoon, now has 70 or so, and a new exhaust! Let the MODDING BEGIN!!! MGW shifter next... in box waiting for me. Install time should have been less than 2 hours, but I spent some time straightening out the exhaust pipe that connects to the over the axle pipes. It seemed to have been bent through shipping, etc. Fixed that up, then finished the install. Figuring out how to best tackle the exhaust hanger bolts was the key. Starting from the driver side, I was much quicker on the passenger side. Essentially, loosed the rear end bolts, then loosen the clamp, then loosen the remaining exhaust hangar bolts, and voila! Repeat on other side. Impressions: I made sure the tips lined up evenly front to back, side to side.... I like the single walled tips. Reminds me of older muscle cars... aggressive. Start up was great! Noticeable louder than stock, but in a deep throatier way. Wife walks in to garage as I asked her to help step on the gas as I check for leaks. She goes, "That's scary!"... LOL. I looked at her with puzzlement. I took it to mean it sounds beefier. Took her for a spin, and I love it. It's not too loud and not too soft, as expected. It's the goldilocks of exhausts... juuuuuuust right. For those of you looking for a great exhaust (factory too, might I add), that is a little more aggressive than stock, but not obnoxiously loud, look no further than the GT500's. Here's a 2 minute or so video I shot tonight... I tried not to wake the neighbors too much... Dan, if this video doesn't convince you to get these puppies, not sure what will I love them!!! They're louder than Invidias for sure!!! Be sure to watch it in HD!!! __________________ 2012 5.0 GT Prem, Kona Blue, 6MT, HID, Brembo, 3.73 -- Ordered: 9/20/11, Born on: 10/20/11, Delivered 11/15/11"Marilyn" GT500 mufflers/flaps, MGW shifter, FRPP K springs, BMR panhard bar, Boss coil covers, 3DC spoiler, Llumar Tint (35% and 20%), 3M ClearBra Last edited by FromG2Z; 11-16-2011 at 11:15 PM.

11-16-2011, 11:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 54	Yes I saw that you got your 5.0. You really seem to like it. I'm glad. After looking at everything ford just put out I'm leaning toward a 2013 Shelby if ford doesn't jack the price. If they do jack the price I'll probably do a 2013 5.0 with a factory SC. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

11-17-2011, 12:21 AM	#14 (permalink)
Nismoracer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 420 Drives: 10 Nismo Rep Power: 16	If ford doesnt jack the price the dealers will. Went to look at a boss and they wanted $55k. Dont know what they are thinking. 2013 shelby would be the answer to satisfy your power needs but if you want something a little more practical, plusher ride and extra bills to spend on anything else...get a 5.0. At first you will only be slightly impressed by the seat of the pants meter. It will snap your head back slightly. Then you will get a CAI +TUNE and at least an axle back cuz you want it to sound mean. You will be very impressed and you wont stop grinning from ear to ear. And your passenger will keep hitting their head on the headrest when you punch it. And then you'll find the easter eggs and run around in sport mode. Maybe in the future i'll want a SC but for now , pretty happy with my setup. And there many aftermarket goodies to customize if you wanna make it look unique.

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