^ agree. Coyote 5.0 all the way.

So what do you think about the SC roush mustangs?

I like them. My only gripe is that they use the standard brakes instead of the Brembos.

luckily that is easily remedied

I'm just weighing all my options if I do this I have one shot at getting it right.

This 2011 Mustang sounds likes its a major upgrade over the previous year. Glad you guys like your 5.0's so much, but for me it will always be the 370. It comes down to what your looking for in a car, when i hear back seats, i turn and run away. I don't want back seats, don't want tons of interior room (are we talking about SUVs or sports cars?), i hate body roll and poor steering feel, ect. I also hugely value the low ride, looks and the feel of the exterior and interior on the 370z. When i first sat in the Z it was like being in a F-16, when i got in the stang 5.0 it felt like i was in a car. Like, the gauge cluster on the Z...cant stop starting at it. I just love it, where as the stang has that tacky 60's retro thing going on. But I'm always going to be a 130hp miata > 300 HP mustang kind of guy. I like small, sharp sleek cars. For me it always comes down to passion and feel and not numbers. I feel like the Z is such an experience, not so much a numbers car. On the internet, its really easy to say "my car is better because of this number".

Also, holy crap guys 100 pages of two guys talking about Mustangs? Dear god

I'm a handling over power guy, too.

Wasnt Car and Driver that just rated the mustang over the Z for handling.

If you were a handling guy, why would you buy a car that weights so much, has a SRA, heavy body roll, disconnected steering feel, ect? Those are things us 'handling' people like to avoid.

They choose the Mustang because they gave the 370z a "5/10" for sport pkg brakes, and they said the Mustang was more fun to drive, which is opinion. All other testing areas were roughly 'even'.

Why would you drive a Tiburon... :icon14:

If it handles it handles... it doesn't matter what it's made of. Having driven both the 5.0 and the Z in anger, the 5.0 comes out on top.

On ford racing they have a SC kit that makes 624 HP and is $7500. So I buy a 5.0 w/ brembo and a 3.73 limited slip rear axle and get them to install that beast it seems to still come out around the same or cheaper than a Shelby.

Pretty much. But then you will ask yourself why you got the 3.73 gear with 624 hp. :bowrofl:

Oh god the Solid Rear Axle argument comes out again...
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That's where I need a smarter car guy to teach this young padawan learner. What is the best rear setup offered if you were going SC 624 HP?

It's OK, FWD will pwn us all.

If I was going with that much power, I would want either the stock 3.31 or the 3.55 gear. Probably 3.55. Either way you'll want to run a lot of tire out back.

then what does AWD do?

Adds more lateral Gs, duh! It also helps SUVs stop faster in snow. :bowrofl:

BTW, I don't mean to be a **** about the Tiburon comment... but really. A guy is calling out the Mustang claiming poor handling because of extra weight and a solid axle and... Tiburon. :icon14:

It feels like... high school.

The Tiburon handles like crap, but, i love the sharp steering feel. The FWD is a killer. The Tiburon is 5 years old, and its going to get replaced soon, with, guess what car..

His opinion counts. Afterall he drives all the worlds fastest cars on GT5

Enjoy your Z in good health.

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I have not yet saved up for the fastest ones.

I'd personally go with a Boss 302 over the shelby, but that's just me.

I'd take the Shelby over /\ that option though.

As m4a1 said, you'll want "longer" gears so you can use put that extra power down, same reasoning why TT Z often switch out to A/T final drive ratios so that they can stay in gear longer.

I just get a kick out of the misguided comments I see from time to time about the Mustang and handling.

There is a huge misconception out there about body roll, for one. A car can be too stiff just as it can be too soft, so body roll is not necessarily a bad thing.

With the Z and the Brembo package 5.0s, the body roll is roughly the same. The only difference is there is slightly more felt body roll with the Mustang because of the extra weight and faster roll rate. That said, both cars corner very flat. I do have a set of Konis waiting to go on the car, though, which will really turn it into even more of a corner carver. My goal is a suspension setup that is superior to the Boss.

I've been doing this long enough to have an idea of what handles and what doesn't, and both the 5.0 and the Z certainly do. And they both do it quite well. Stock-for-stock I feel like the 5.0 actually has the superior balance, as the Z has gobs of built in understeer with it's staggered setup and soft rear anti-roll bar. The 5.0 is slightly under-damped in the rear but overall has the better balance. This is subjective, though. Some people feel more comfortable with understeer, and that's perfectly fine.

Anyways, it's late, so I will leave you with this for your viewing and aural pleasure. A 5.0 and 370Z on a romp through the mountains of Tennessee.

The Shelby is cool because of the name and the look, but the 5.0 is just hands down the better engine. There was a pretty good article comparing both the 5.4 and 5.0 in one of the dedicated Mustang mags a few months ago... I'll see if I can dig it up when I wake up tomorrow...

I do love the Boss, though. If I just wanted a weekend fun car / track day car I'd be all over the Boss in a heart beat over the standard 5.0 and the current GT500. I can't live without the Premium package (and Sync) on a DD, though. :icon17:

No argument out of me as to the 5.0 being a better engine. But, if I was wanting an FI'd stang, I'd jsut start with one that came that way from the factory.

The Boss is one helluva car, I'd rock one in a heartbeat except for the fact that my $$ is tied up in my Z, (and my wife is a diehard Z nut as well and strongly dislikes domestics). Even she thinks the Boss is cool tho.

Plus, I am trying to cure my car add so my plan is to keep my Z at least 5-6years or more. This addiction of mine (new car every 12-24 months for the last xx years) has cost me too much $$ that could have gone towards, well I dunno actually, I live a pretty simple lifestyle and have pretty much everything I need/want so I suppose it'd just be sitting in the bank, but still, must cure this affliction.

Good point on starting with factory FI. Though Ford warranties the 525 hp FRPP s/c kit on the 5.0s.

I also need to cure my car ADD. Every now and then I look up M3s and the new 911s and just shake my head at my disease. :rofl2:

we need to start a support group, I know we're not the only two here with this problem, dare I say, disease? :icon17:

The one thing I can think of when going SC 5.0 Vs Gt500 is that the added value of the shelby will be there. I total the 5.0 I won't get money for the parts and labor that went into the SC kit. The Shelby will have a value that includes the SC.

Because when you're dumb enough to buy a GT500, you're also dumb enough to think it's good in the corners.

Purple rocks btw

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How's that tibbi working for you? It must take corners real nice because it doesn't have enough power to loose grip.

What happens if you drive them both in love?
A: you cant love a mustang

What a troll. :gtfo2:

Seems like we get a new uninformed troll every couple days now.

Best kind of troll

Yeah it's really weird. Have all the previous trolls banded together to join with new usernames and re-troll the forum? :roflpuke2:

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