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FromG2Z 10-12-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1354056)
I just get a kick out of the misguided comments I see from time to time about the Mustang and handling.

There is a huge misconception out there about body roll, for one. A car can be too stiff just as it can be too soft, so body roll is not necessarily a bad thing.

With the Z and the Brembo package 5.0s, the body roll is roughly the same. The only difference is there is slightly more felt body roll with the Mustang because of the extra weight and faster roll rate. That said, both cars corner very flat. I do have a set of Konis waiting to go on the car, though, which will really turn it into even more of a corner carver. My goal is a suspension setup that is superior to the Boss.

I've been doing this long enough to have an idea of what handles and what doesn't, and both the 5.0 and the Z certainly do. And they both do it quite well. Stock-for-stock I feel like the 5.0 actually has the superior balance, as the Z has gobs of built in understeer with it's staggered setup and soft rear anti-roll bar. The 5.0 is slightly under-damped in the rear but overall has the better balance. This is subjective, though. Some people feel more comfortable with understeer, and that's perfectly fine.

Anyways, it's late, so I will leave you with this for your viewing and aural pleasure. A 5.0 and 370Z on a romp through the mountains of Tennessee.

Amen Steve. I have to admit I was one of those "doubters" that automatically thought domestics, there is no way it will compare to a z. And as I explained before, all it took was for me to sit in one, drive one, done. Where do I sign.

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1354063)
No argument out of me as to the 5.0 being a better engine. But, if I was wanting an FI'd stang, I'd jsut start with one that came that way from the factory.

The Boss is one helluva car, I'd rock one in a heartbeat except for the fact that my $$ is tied up in my Z, (and my wife is a diehard Z nut as well and strongly dislikes domestics). Even she thinks the Boss is cool tho.

Plus, I am trying to cure my car add so my plan is to keep my Z at least 5-6years or more. This addiction of mine (new car every 12-24 months for the last xx years) has cost me too much $$ that could have gone towards, well I dunno actually, I live a pretty simple lifestyle and have pretty much everything I need/want so I suppose it'd just be sitting in the bank, but still, must cure this affliction.

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1354069)
we need to start a support group, I know we're not the only two here with this problem, dare I say, disease? :icon17:

I am in that boat too. No worries. Hopefully this 5.0 will be my last one for a while. But we only live once so.....have to balance it all out. What good is money on the bank if never used? Hehe.

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Originally Posted by NissanGuy23 (Post 1354130)
Because when you're dumb enough to buy a GT500, you're also dumb enough to think it's good in the corners.

Purple rocks btw

Wow dude. You have some issues. Comments like these automatically and completely qualify you as an idiot and your comments and opinions have no value. :gtfo2:

That, and you drive a tiburon. :roflpuke2:

theDreamer 10-12-2011 12:04 PM

Guys, I hear Ford is making a new option for the Mustang.
Boat package: This allows you to take your brand new Mustang off land to enjoy on the open waters. With the 'claimed' body roll and lack of handling with a SRA we created this option to fulfill the enjoyable open waters where you can fully open up your Mustang to its full potential.

m4a1mustang 10-12-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1354775)
Guys, I hear Ford is making a new option for the Mustang.
Boat package: This allows you to take your brand new Mustang off land to enjoy on the open waters. With the 'claimed' body roll and lack of handling with a SRA we created this option to fulfill the enjoyable open waters where you can fully open up your Mustang to its full potential.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8F3UE9qFsg

phelan 10-12-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1354775)
Guys, I hear Ford is making a new option for the Mustang.
Boat package: This allows you to take your brand new Mustang off land to enjoy on the open waters. With the 'claimed' body roll and lack of handling with a SRA we created this option to fulfill the enjoyable open waters where you can fully open up your Mustang to its full potential.

You're right, they make GREAT anchors.

b1adesofcha0s 10-12-2011 12:23 PM

I'm on a Boat FTW :roflpuke2:

Red__Zed 10-12-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1354813)
You're right, they make GREAT anchors.

:icon18:

FromG2Z 10-12-2011 12:57 PM

There's also the Troll Package option for the 5.0. It comes preloaded with alchemy's posts that bash the 5.0 and show up on the nav lcd screen visible to the driver upon every start up. If ordered with the sync option, it will read it via text to speech so u can hear on ur daily commute.

( Click to show/hide )
just kidding alchemy! We still love ya! Hehe

FL 4Motion 10-12-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NissanGuy23 (Post 1354130)
Because when you're dumb enough to buy a GT500, you're also dumb enough to think it's good in the corners.

Purple rocks btw

/\ leave, NOW. Seriously, :gtfo2:

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1354429)
Yeah it's really weird. Have all the previous trolls banded together to join with new usernames and re-troll the forum? :roflpuke2:

they're going to meld together ala voltron and create THE SUPERTROLL! The only way to defeat them will be for all the Zs and 5.0s to join together to fight them off. :usa:

b1adesofcha0s 10-12-2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1355485)
/\ leave, NOW. Seriously, :gtfo2:



they're going to meld together ala voltron and create THE SUPERTROLL! The only way to defeat them will be for all the Zs and 5.0s to join together to fight them off. :usa:

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

Lemers 10-12-2011 06:27 PM

In my continuing afford to figure out if I have a mustang future and what kind is it 5.0 or 5.4. I found this article. Thought you guys would like it.

Ford Mustang Kenne Bell Supercharger 5.0 Coyote Vs. 5.4 Condor - 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords Magazine

Red__Zed 10-12-2011 06:33 PM

Interesting read

Lemers 10-12-2011 06:35 PM

Yeah hat I got out of it is with same SC the 5.0 wins.

b1adesofcha0s 10-12-2011 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1355485)
/\ leave, NOW. Seriously, :gtfo2:



they're going to meld together ala voltron and create THE SUPERTROLL! The only way to defeat them will be for all the Zs and 5.0s to join together to fight them off. :usa:

Trolltron!

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...itAVivnzF09M3g

FL 4Motion 10-12-2011 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1355571)

:rofl2:

m4a1mustang 10-12-2011 07:11 PM

That's the article I was referring to earlier.

Red__Zed 10-12-2011 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1355570)
Yeah hat I got out of it is with same SC the 5.0 wins.

that's what I've heard at least.

m4a1mustang 10-12-2011 08:22 PM

Dan I am not selling my Konis anymore.

Next ZDayZ I think I will be running a pretty trick setup. Maybe 18x10.5" PF01s all around...

Red__Zed 10-12-2011 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1355762)
Dan I am not selling my Konis anymore.

Next ZDayZ I think I will be running a pretty trick setup. Maybe 18x10.5" PF01s all around...

beast mode

Alchemy 10-12-2011 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1354891)
There's also the Troll Package option for the 5.0. It comes preloaded with alchemy's posts that bash the 5.0 and show up on the nav lcd screen visible to the driver upon every start up. If ordered with the sync option, it will read it via text to speech so u can hear on ur daily commute.

( Click to show/hide )
just kidding alchemy! We still love ya! Hehe

Lol, I dont mean to come off that way. Just giving my perspective here and there. Its a Z forum, I have to give you guys a little sh!t:icon17: As stated before, all you guys have given me a new found respect for the Stang. Its fun to bust eachothers balls, healthy competition. I respect you guys and your cars regardless of what I post.

Oh btw M4a1, love the avatar! I totally belive that should still be our flag!!

m4a1mustang 10-12-2011 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1355784)
beast mode

Too bad the car can't handle. :/

Red__Zed 10-12-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1355788)
Too bad the car can't handle. :/

:|

m4a1mustang 10-12-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1355787)
Lol, I dont mean to come off that way. Just giving my perspective here and there. Its a Z forum, I have to give you guys a little sh!t:icon17: As stated before, all you guys have given me a new found respect for the Stang. Its fun to bust eachothers balls, healthy competition. I respect you guys and your cars regardless of what I post.

The balls will be in person at ZDayZ. :superghey:

:roflpuke2:

m4a1mustang 10-12-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1355791)
:|

:roflpuke2:

Alchemy 10-12-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1355571)

Hilarious! Rep!

Red__Zed 10-12-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1355794)
:roflpuke2:

damn solid live rear axle

b1adesofcha0s 10-12-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1355792)
The balls will be in many people at ZDayZ. :superghey:

:roflpuke2:

:wtf2:

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1355799)
Hilarious! Rep!

:tup:

m4a1mustang 10-12-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1355803)
damn solid live rear axle

:icon17:

Back on topic, though. The PF01s will fit just fine and they look good. Options are 18x9.5 and 18x10.5. Sam runs the 10.5s but and 305s all around, but it requires a 5mm spacer and the tires stick out past the fender just a bit.

If I wanted to run a lightweight 18" setup the 9.5s would be my best bet, and I could run 275-285 all around.

Or I could get the 10.5's and troll the **** out of ZDayZ and The Dragon. :bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 10-12-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1355808)
:wtf2:



:tup:

From now on I'm going to call you "balls deep."

That actually sounds like an Indian name. Ballsdeep Kapoor. :icon17:

Red__Zed 10-12-2011 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1355809)
:icon17:

Back on topic, though. The PF01s will fit just fine and they look good. Options are 18x9.5 and 18x10.5. Sam runs the 10.5s but and 305s all around, but it requires a 5mm spacer and the tires stick out past the fender just a bit.

If I wanted to run a lightweight 18" setup the 9.5s would be my best bet, and I could run 275-285 all around.

Or I could get the 10.5's and troll the **** out of ZDayZ and The Dragon. :bowrofl:

do the 10.5s. I've toyed with that idea too.

m4a1mustang 10-12-2011 08:44 PM

I would hate it for a summer setup, though. Track exclusive... yes. But street... nawww... still a cool thought though.

b1adesofcha0s 10-12-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1355810)
From now on I'm going to call you "balls deep."

That actually sounds like an Indian name. Ballsdeep Kapoor. :icon17:

Too bad I'm not Indian :-\

Red__Zed 10-12-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1355814)
I would hate it for a summer setup, though. Track exclusive... yes. But street... nawww... still a cool thought though.

why?

m4a1mustang 10-12-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1355816)
Too bad I'm not Indian :-\

Pfft, Pakistan has better food.

m4a1mustang 10-12-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1355818)
why?

Because 305s up front is insanity and the wheels would stick out past the fenders a good 25-30mm.

Red__Zed 10-12-2011 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1355821)
Because 305s up front is insanity and the wheels would stick out past the fenders a good 25-30mm.

meh. you just aren't dedicated enough to run a real sports car.



:|






Buy 4 10.5s and 2 9.5s...swap out the fronts. Or 4 10" f14s

m4a1mustang 10-12-2011 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1355826)
meh. you just aren't dedicated enough to run a real sports car.



:|






Buy 4 10.5s and 2 9.5s...swap out the fronts. Or 4 10" f14s

I would buy 4 9.5s and a trailer to tow 4 10.5s. I could pwn you on the way to ZDayZ, swap my wheels, then pwn you even harder. :p

Alchemy 10-12-2011 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1355816)
Too bad I'm not Indian :-\

B1adesofcurRy?

Red__Zed 10-12-2011 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1355832)
I would buy 4 9.5s and a trailer to tow 4 10.5s. I could pwn you on the way to ZDayZ, swap my wheels, then pwn you even harder. :p

i'd run the staggered setup for the daily...

b1adesofcha0s 10-12-2011 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1355819)
Pfft, Pakistan has better food.

:tup:

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1355847)
B1adesofcurRy?

:ugh2:

m4a1mustang 10-12-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1355856)
i'd run the staggered setup for the daily...

Meh understeer ftl.


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