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So I've been reading around and it looks like the 2013 refresh is going to be pretty nice. The GTs will be getting a facelift, all new from the doors forward with more GT500-esque styling. Like b1ades posted earlier, there is a new LCD screen in the cockpit where you can toggle through a variety of digital gauges that measure stuff like 0-60, 1/4 mile, trans temp, oil temp, oil press, a/f, etc. HIDs also appear to be standard on all of the cars now and it might get LED tails.

Dammmmittttttt....


Although, at least I beat the oil cooler-related price drop on the z :rofl2:

hmmm... sounds good so far, some DI and a power boost would be good as well, if that happens, i'm getting a new car:tup:

DI isn't coming (AFAIK) until the 2014/2015 MY with the complete redesign. What we know with that version is:

250+ lbs lighter than current (so 3,350lbs maximum)
Smaller exterior dimensions
Direct Injection, probably rated 450hp
IRS

Ford also says it will NOT have the pure retro-style, but will definitely look like a Mustang.

If they do that right, I'll be swapping in for 2 of those.

One thing I noticed last night... Ford changed the spec on the transmission fluid for the MT82 in the 2012MY to their dual-clutch automatic fluid. I already bought my Redline fluid a couple months ago which I suppose now would be out of spec if I go by the 2012 service manual, but a bunch of people are running Redline with great results.

Yeah, me too. Sadly, though, I will be getting an automatic.

Because the it's getting a 6-7 speed dual clutch box with paddle shifters.

This is all if I get another Mustang. I kind of want an ///M or AMG for the next ride.

At least one of my next cars will be auto. At's these days have gotten very impressive, and it will help me hate traffic less

Yeah, definitely. I love MT but absolutely hate it in traffic. And since I drive 14,000 miles a year to/from work... arggg!

I think MT is worth the pain in traffic.

I prefer it for spirited drives, and I prefer the control I have during inclement weather. Even with paddle shifters, I don't feel as much control with an auto. Because with a manual, I can just pop it out of gear if I'm unsure what to do for a split second. Just my personal pref.

You need to drive a good DCT then. GTR, Porsche PDK, etc.

I do like MT, but in a daily driver I want the convenience of AT. DCT gives you best of both worlds... lightening fast shifts, great control, and of course convenience in traffic.

I plan to keep a mt car as well. Maybe 2 mts

I already explained it. "Lightning fast shifts" has drawbacks, too. I sometimes like to dither over my next gear. Because I have that 1-2 second delay, I can analyze the road ahead and pop it into the proper gear. If I know the gear ahead of time, I can just plow it in without a thought.

Either way, that clutch pedal and rowing gears will always be more fun for me than letting a computer do it. And I've sat in heavy traffic for hours. While there's some discomfort, that usually goes away within minutes of reaching my destination. I really don't think driving a manual in heavy traffic is all that unpleasant. It can be annoying, but it is temporary.

You should know the gear you are going to shift to before you begin to do it. It shouldn't take you 1-2 seconds to analyze whilst out of gear.

The one good thing about the 5.0 in traffic is that it's got so much torque I can leave it in 5th gear and just keep it there for my whole commute. Even when stopped. :bowrofl:

I should, but I don't always. And why should I anyway? If I shift into the wrong gear, I'll just be shifting back anyway, but that process may take 5 seconds, all told. I'd rather take a self-caused delay than a misshift.

I've never been big on the "always be in gear" philosophy. I think it's ok to drift in neutral as long as you're in control of the vehicle.

Here are your guages: 2013 Mustang LCD Gauge Mode Pics Surface with Gauge and Track Apps! - StangTV.com

This image is from a Ford Super Duty but the placement will be the same for the Mustang:
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/a...yLCDscreen.jpg

I coast SOMETIMES, but I'm a believer in always being in gear, and in the power band. I want to be able to move right away if I need to. I would never coast in traffic, for instance.

Wonder how much work swapping gauges would be

Not to mention that clutch in coasting brings the mainshaft bearing a little closer to seizing every time....

I almost never fully downshift when slowing to a stop. And I may coast in traffic, but only if the foot is over the clutch, hand on shifter, ready to shift.

I'm a defensive driver. There's almost never a need for me to accelerate right away at this vehicle's limit.
I don't hold the clutch in while coasting if it's for any significant amount of time. If I'm coasting to a stop, car in neutral, clutch out. If I'm dithering on a shift, again, that's maybe a second or two.

Just installed richmond 3.9 gears and ford K springs...WOW...the stance is great and body roll is almost non existant...the gears made HUGE diff coming from 3.31

My main reason for going 3.9 is not having to shift into 5th down the 1/4....410 were pretty nasty....but WOW the car is BEASTLY now

One day I will have enough tire on the car to make use of the 3.73s. :icon17:

3.9s holy ****

:icon18: what do you run now

no gear whine either as reported with allot of 3.9 swap

Feels really good , highly recommended so far

Still on the OEM Pirelli PZeros... 255/40/19.

Going with 275/35/19 Pilot Super Sports soon.

Even the 373s feel short to me

Oh hai erryone! :hello:

secretly spying for the Z supremacy movement. *snaps photos*

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Ugh, why don't you go to The370Z.com or something.

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Remember, this is a Z thread.

hahahah!

Wow... firstly, with anything technology related, if you wait for the latest and greatest of everything, you'll never buy one. Period. It always gets better. Key is to find something you really like, if you can afford it, buy it, and enjoy it. Though that 2013 MY does look nice, part of me says maybe I should have waited, but the majority of me is so stoked about getting the 2012 MY regardless :) It also sounds like the 2012 MY also fixed/addressed a lot of the initial 2011 quibbles.

Also, FWIW, based on that pic, I don't like the gauge placement above the LCD.... I dunno... maybe just me... looks kindda cheap and an afterthought. What you guys think?

GZ3, 3.9 gears?!?!?!?! Where do you get that from? Is that a Ford OEM part?

That pic posted was from a Super Duty, so the Mustang won't look exactly like that. But the LCD screen will be between the Tach and Speedometer.

I don't know about you guys but I really like the center guage option available on the Boss. Would love to add it to mine at some point, if possible.

Have a pic Steve? since you guys are so quick and savvy to attach youtube vids and pics (esp of 1980's singers) :p

Large pic

Looks like we can get the pod for $85 and then add whatever guages we want.

Them some expensive gauges

Ford Racing BOSS Gauge Pack (10-12 All) - Ford Racing M-6304GPACK-MA