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Sync is amazing. No issues with it yet

I'm pretty sure there plenty of room in the trunk for a double :ugh2:

Good to hear, it seems like a really cool feature.

<- Is a FORD shareholder and doesn't mind if people turn in their Z's for 5.0's ;)

I wish I had Sync although, "happy ending" probably won't be recognzied so it will be useless for me :rofl2:

Yeah, the fact that it is 99% software is very good for ford. I don't think anyone else has anything close, and in lower-level cars, it presents a huge advantage. To me, it is relatively unimportant, but it would cost ford only the illusion of premium-ness, and about a dollar a unit to put it in EVERY car they sell...huge differentiator between honda/toyota/etc.

Red370... very nice. And what does the Cayman S cost compared to our 5's? :D

Glad to hear Dan... I'm wondering how Sync will play with my phone, etc...



FYI, my quest to determine whether or not to go with the GT/CS Fascia + Boss splitter versus the MGW shifter is slowly shifting (pun intended) towards the shifter :)

I called MGW to get a feel for the company, the people, the product, etc... Wow, I'm glad I called. I talked to the owner and designer of the shifter. What a standup guy. Very knowledgeable. Wasn't really coming from a sales standpoint. I just wanted to hear what he had to say about his product and the stock 5.0 shifter. Summary = the stock shifter was made cheaply and is rather flimsy, but most folks would probably be happy with it. For those us enthusiasts who really care about the "relationship" that we have with our cars, i.e. using the shifter as our communication medium :), will want an improved shifter.

The MGW is built better, is supported better, is more precise, crisp, and an overall better feel, virtually eliminating any possibility of missed gears. Also, the reverse shifting lockout is made tons better.

From all I read about MGW in the past, I haven't seen anything negative said about them... nada, zilch. They've been doing it since 1984, and have had tons of loyal customers. They don't start shipping the shifter till 2 weeks from now, but 80 of the first 100 batch are already accounted for.

So I put my name in for one, :happydance: but can cancel if I change my mind.

Anyways... I think I'll probably lean this way instead of the fascia for now... and maybe get the fascia next year. Coming from the Z, the tranny/shifter is a really sensitive subject for me. I didn't really care for the Z's overall transmission and shifting. Driving the stock 5.0, I was already impressed though.... so part of me is thinking why bother. But eh, what the hey... imagine how much BETTER this will be.

What you think, Dan, Steve, GZ3?

p.s. at one point of our convo, he goes "You ordered a new one right?" "Make sure you get the 3.73 gears. It makes the 5.0 a TOTALLY different animal." I said "oh yes.... ohhh YES I DID."

That sounds like a plan. MGW makes good stuff so I'm sure you will be happy with it. If I decide to change the shifter that's the route I am going to go.

Same here. Sync is great.

The only issue I had was with text messages when I first got it. My Droid (original) wouldn't share texts with Sync, but when I upgraded to the Droid 2 that fixed it.

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I've heard only positive things. Haven't paid enough attention to really know much though.

Story of your life. :bowrofl:

Why pay attention when you do my research for me?

So you can tell the difference between information and misinformation.

Damn I wish I could fit that in my sig....

You can fit it up your ***. :bowrofl:

No thanks :wtf2:

Sounds like a lotta work

In other news, my tuner sent me some new tunes to try.

I was having some issues with high rpm pinging at times (above 6k rpm @ WOT) and thought that it might be partially attributed to the exhaust leak I have right now. Tuner doesn't think that's the case since it's post 02 sensor, but it might be.

Either way I was running a 93 Performance tune and he sent me one tuned for 91. We'll see how that works.

Also got an 89 Street tune for added flexibility.

did you hear the ping or through data logs?

Heard it.

I heard it once before when I first started with the tune this spring and we fixed it. So I'm thinking it's the exhaust or just bad gas (hence the decrease in the Octane rating on the new tunes).

i ve been thinking of going to a 91 tune just to be safe, there car will add timing anyway if you actually get 93oct or dump some torco in there...

That's my thought process.

Of course I am also mulling just ditching the intake and tune and not worrying about it. I won't do that, though. I'll just stick with dropping the octane specification on my tunes.

I'm probably going to switch from Performance to Street, and my new Street tune is for 89 octane.

Regarding octane, in stock form the ECU will run on anything 87 or higher. Ford says it makes 405 hp on 87 and the full 412 on 93. So obviously a little conservative with the timing advance, but still, there is not a large power difference.

yeah i hear on "thinking" about ditching the tune. All that #8 talk even though allot of it is bs kinda got to me. I have a suspension issue with my car right now and the tech advised that i remove my off road h and tune before i even think about bringing it in due to the new TSB. kinda of a pain

Yeah, that is a PITA.

I just want to get the tune sorted out and fix my exhaust leak and all should be well.

Damn Mustang just keeps getting better :shakes head:

We Hear: 2013 Ford Mustang to Get New Performance Gauges - WOT on Motor Trend

Yeah I saw those LCD guages. Totes jelly about that.

Nice more distracters from the road.

" Why didn't you see that car in front of you hitting it's brakes?"

"I was seeing if I beat my best 0-60 time on the gauge"

Steve...

So any sort of tune is banned by Ford for warranty work? Is it as simple as reverting the tune? Or can they still tell there was a tune. Therefore ANY mod is not allowed? How about my shifter????

My understanding is there is a flash counter for tunes, and ford tracks whenever they flash. If the numbers don't match, they know you flashed.

I don't know of anything to substantiate that claim. From what I've read when you reflash the ECU it leaves a record just like if you disconnected the battery for 15 minutes.

As long as that is the case, you should be able to reflash to stock with no definitive trace of there ever having been a tune. If you are paranoid about it, you could replace your battery so you have a viable explanation for the flash.

As far as the shifter goes, that would only affect warranty repair if it was the root cause of damage to the car.

I think they only check it on major things (blown engine)


Steve, I am positive there is a flash counter, and disconnecting the battery will not look like a reflash. We use similar controls for the controls we sell, except ours are for use on jet engines and such.

Could you support that with hard evidence, though? Everything I read points to what I explained earlier. I would like to know the hard truth either way.

I've seen pics of the board, appears to have an extra register for that purpose. 32 bit, too, so not really practical to roll it over.

Pretty trivial to track. I don't like the odds.

Most of the guys telling you it's not there are either noobs to hardware, or tuners. I wouldn't trust either.

Well, whatever the case I guess it doesn't matter to me since I've already taken the step to get tuned.

I reflashed the car with the 89 Street tune. Runs well. No high RPM ping, just smooth and strong. I think I'll stick with it.

Did uncover some new problems, though:

Brakes. As I was pulling out of my neighborhood and let off the throttle to cruise, I could hear a low metallic grind that would pulse with each rotation of the tires. Sounded like a pad lightly grinding against the rotor. Sure enough when I checked the rotors they were quite worn... much more than the last I checked. Both front and rear.

This car is heavier than the Z with more aggressive pads, so it's probably not a surprise for this to happen at 25k given how I drive...

In any case, I'm in the market for new rotors and pads now. I think I'm just going to stick with blanks.

I just PM'd a vendor on a 370Z forum for a price quote on parts for a Mustang. :bowrofl:

I understand and I agree.

However, given the new TSB, isn't Ford all anti mods of any sort now? What's annoying is that, I talked to my dealer, and I asked them if they would warranty any work having to do with the transmission (say, there's grinding of gears, etc) if I had an aftermarket shifter installed?

Now I KNOW the shifter has absolutely NOTHING to do with transmission issues... but according to them, they said even if they (dealer) is okay with it, but if they have to go through Ford corporate to approve the warranty, Ford themselves may give me grief and ultimately refuse warranty to me just because I have that shifter.

Complete BS, I know.... but still, now I'm all worried about getting my shifter :(

He did state that I could always put the stock shifter back on there, which is fine.... but still, just a pain in the a$$.

Btw, I did verify with them that my GT500 mufflers are covered because they are Ford Racing parts... go figure.

That's the same way with any dealership or manufacturer, though. If I took my 370Z into NISSAN with transmission problems, they'd probably not want to do warranty work on it because of my shifter.

It is what it is. I say if you are worried about it, avoid a tune. The car doesn't really need much more power anyway.

I wouldn't worry about a shifter or exhaust or anything like that, though. You could easily swap it back to stock if needed. Chances are you won't even have to worry about it, though.

I'm about to open my diff for a fluid change... I'm sure if the diff blew and they knew I opened it up they could give me trouble if they wanted... but whatever. Nissan could do the same thing.

I agree with you Steve. Just corporate bull$***. Any way a company can refuse warranty work on a customer, they'll do. :rolleyes:

But yeah, I wasn't planning on a tune anyways, so no worries there. But yeah that shifter I think is a safe bet. I'll just swap back to stock if needed, if at all.

That is one of the very few things I don't like about the GT-R. They can log all that data and use it against you for warranty purposes. Apparently all (or at least major) GT-R related warranties are handled by Nissan Engineers and not the dealers themselves.

You really can't blame them. If you made a product I don't think you'd be too happy about fixing them under warranty if your customers were modifying them...