2020 Supra... first thoughts

POS VETT

Apparently I did pay much more than $50k for a Launch Edition #244 in Nocturnal Black. While the horsepower number is close to that of the 370Z, torque is a different story.

In my case, the whole deal turned very bitter. The car was bought back by Toyota (i.e. it was a lemon) earlier this week.

Rusty

What was wrong with it?

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POS VETT

It's a long story, basically it has multiple electronic problems involving the Body Domain Controller from the beginning (it would not come out of transport mode). Toyota did not know how to repair the problem and the car sat for months without a clear indication if it could even be repaired.

As the cars age, other types of problems start to show up. Some of them have no clear solution or part availability. The corporate attitude, shown to me by Toyota and Toyota Customer Care (not the selling dealer, they have been great), left a bitter after taste.

It's a great car otherwise, it's the electronics that ruin the car.

Waiz

Exactly what I feared with using a BMW drivetrain

DLSTR

https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-toyota...h-a-1840457071

The 2020 Toyota Supra Has Noticeably Better Bite With A Tune From Litchfield

NecioVato

Stupid question but with some of the problems - is this something that a certified BMW tech could look at? Or is it a situation where Toyota did enough changes to things that they need their guy to look at yet Toyota didn’t build the car so it is taking more time to figure out the issues that seem to pop up?

POS VETT

I was told that there was some kind of limitation for either brand to work on the other's car. Apparently not hardware, so likely it's built into software/firmware somehow.

It is unclear to me how much/deep Toyota intervention is in the aspect of the electronic architecture. My guess it's very little judging from the fact that their own people (FTS engineers) were unable to solve the problems.

Cyber370

Toyota had 0 input or intervention in the electronics. So yeah, worst nightmare. Stuck with German electronics.


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FL 4Motion

I bet a bimmer tech coulda fixed it. .

All kidding aside, the attitude you described re. ‘Yota Corp and customer care is not an isolated incident. They think their **** don’t stink and never have the customer’s back, read many similar posts to yours regarding 4Runner and Tacoma problems too.

bunk

It wasnt a C8

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