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Just watched a motorweek episode where they covered the North American international auto show and there was a nice vid of the Supra. My initial reaction to this car when

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Just watched a motorweek episode where they covered the North American international auto show and there was a nice vid of the Supra.

My initial reaction to this car when it was revealed was followed by not a Supra since it’s just a reskinned bimmer. Then I was lukewarm to it...

However, my thinking has evolved to the point where I’m going to flat out say I reallly like it and if I were in the market for a new sports car, this would be up there.

I’d pick this over another nismo z all day assuming the driving dynamics are on point, (a manual option would be nice but not a deal breaker for me since my knees etc are shot). Plus, zf 8spd autos are insanely good.

Let’s remember that most of the world knows the supras reputation thanks to f&f but most couldn’t tell you what motor was in it. Plus a whole lotta people will buy this if they want a sports car bc it looks cool and Toyota means reliable and if they’re educated enough to know about the BMW connection, they’ll just consider it a plus since bmw has a Luxo/sport premium German rep.

The fact that a new sub 100k sports car just got dropped in our collective lap is a plus in this environment. It MIGHT spur a z35, it might not, but having another choice is good.

This is going to be a good car I think. remember when the r35 came out? No inline 6, no manual, not a real gtr, I’ll never buy one etc. haven’t heard those ******** complaints since 2010. And yeah, I know at least Nissan didn’t have Audi build the drivetrain,(although if they had, the gtr would have been much better ), but economics are different now than pre Great Recession, all the auto makers are teaming up and sharing costs. We should get used to it. Hell Chevy and Ford share the same 10spd auto iirc, I’m sure camaro and mustang owners were thrilled about that.
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Just watched a motorweek episode where they covered the North American international auto show and there was a nice vid of the Supra.

My initial reaction to this car when it was revealed was followed by not a Supra since it’s just a reskinned bimmer. Then I was lukewarm to it...

However, my thinking has evolved to the point where I’m going to flat out say I reallly like it and if I were in the market for a new sports car, this would be up there.

I’d pick this over another nismo z all day assuming the driving dynamics are on point, (a manual option would be nice but not a deal breaker for me since my knees etc are shot). Plus, zf 8spd autos are insanely good.

Let’s remember that most of the world knows the supras reputation thanks to f&f but most couldn’t tell you what motor was in it. Plus a whole lotta people will buy this if they want a sports car bc it looks cool and Toyota means reliable and if they’re educated enough to know about the BMW connection, they’ll just consider it a plus since bmw has a Luxo/sport premium German rep.

The fact that a new sub 100k sports car just got dropped in our collective lap is a plus in this environment. It MIGHT spur a z35, it might not, but having another choice is good.

This is going to be a good car I think. remember when the r35 came out? No inline 6, no manual, not a real gtr, I’ll never buy one etc. haven’t heard those ******** complaints since 2010. And yeah, I know at least Nissan didn’t have Audi build the drivetrain,(although if they had, the gtr would have been much better ), but economics are different now than pre Great Recession, all the auto makers are teaming up and sharing costs. We should get used to it. Hell Chevy and Ford share the same 10spd auto iirc, I’m sure camaro and mustang owners were thrilled about that.
Well said. To say the car is not this or that after not at all driving it is ridiculous. The total amount of resources to bring a car to market now is insane. Cost sharing and parts bin sharing is nothing new. Its a sportscar and Im betting most who talk as if the world might end here then test it will be impressed. Im happy to see a new sportscar on the market in a sea of shite boxes and trucks. Fk that.
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Well said. To say the car is not this or that after not at all driving it is ridiculous. The total amount of resources to bring a car to market now is insane. Cost sharing and parts bin sharing is nothing new. Its a sportscar and Im betting most who talk as if the world might end here then test it will be impressed. Im happy to see a new sportscar on the market in a sea of shite boxes and trucks. Fk that.


No one is doubting the car’s capabilities and I’m sure it drives amazingly well.

It just would’ve been nice if Toyota would’ve designed and built most of it. I mean this is Toyota, the giant car manufacturer who designed and built the LFA just for fun knowing fully well that it was a money losing project. It was just to show the world what they were capable of. And it was revolutionary.

Again, if I wanted a BMW, I’d buy a BMW not a rebadged one. Just saying.

PS: Here's something to think about - Toyota, until recently was the biggest car manufacturer in the world. They only recently became second to Volkswagen by an extremely small margin. The only reason Volkswagen is first is because it is a consortium of numerous car companies (Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini, Seat, etc). For all intents and purposes, Toyota is still the biggest.

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