2020 Supra... first thoughts

BlackZeda · 01-16-2019, 02:17 PM

I bet it is a sweet ride based on how well I loved the BMW M240i xDrive. Need to see it in person in regard to the aesthetics, but I probably won’t buy even though I have been interested in it. The BMW M240i xDrive seems more compelling now.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-16-2019, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z

You missed my point my friend. I'm saying why would you reproduce your halo car and not have your engine in it. The GTR and Supra are not famous and feared because they look sexy... they were feared for the power and reliability of the rb26 and 2jz.

I've been tracking the ft1 supra for years. If I knew it was going to have a crappy bmw engine I wouldnt have even thought twice. Mercedes engines may be a step up from bmw for reliability BUT that's missing the point.

In that sense i do agree.... I would've rather seen a 3jz... But we're in a place where we are losing affordable sports cars. At least it's an entry and hopefully it will do well? If it does well maybe toyota may want to make a 3jz. For now the car is nice. It looks like it's worth what it goes for.

ZCanadian · 01-16-2019, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zingston

Ha ha! I agree... a 4 banger Porsche for 70k + is a load of horse sh** at best!

Have you driven one? They are faster than the flat 6 they replace (although they don't sound nearly as nice).

Guessing that's the way of the world, so good on Toyota for putting a 6 in this car.
They pretty much had to. 3,500 lbs???? WTF???

sunkist350z · 01-16-2019, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM88

Damn it looks way better on video than in pictures.

Looks and sounds even better in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iOBD4VgVUM

Magic Bus · 01-16-2019, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lvcky69

I really dont care about the price. Toyota dropped the ball when they didn't make the supra manual. That's why a lot of ppl are upset. A 50k car with only 335hp and not only that, it is auto, shoot, might as well save up some more and get yourself an m4 or the new audi rs5 or even the z06. I'm just happy that companies like Porsche, BMW and Chevy are still making their sports car manual.

No manual = no go for me.

Approximately 50% of the BMW M2's sold in the USA are manual trans. Many car enthusiasts who prefer manuals, will definitely be ordering the BMW version and not even think twice about getting the Toyota.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-16-2019, 08:38 PM

Here's a comparison between the 1998 and the 2020

https://www-autoblog-com.cdn.ampproj...-comparison%2F

Spartan 1771 · 01-16-2019, 10:10 PM

Although I have absolutley no plans to trade in my Z for a Supra, I was really looking forward to it's new release................ until now.

I had absolutely no back information on this car when I first saw it. I immediatly thought: "why does this thing look so much like a BMW?" Now I know why.

I truly don't understand why Toyota would rely on another manufacturer to produce a car that has such a rich history and has been anticipated by the car community for over 20 years. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this was a serious mistake. Mistake number 2: it only comes mated to an automatic transmission. Clearly they aren't listening to enthusiasts.

Just my $0.02

CRiZO · 01-16-2019, 10:13 PM

So much cheaper, faster, better balanced, lower center of gravity, better tech, and safer than the previous Supra. Why did they bother?

Did you know 50% of people who buy the M2 prefer it in auto?

Lvcky69 · 01-16-2019, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771

Although I have absolutley no plans to trade in my Z for a Supra, I was really looking forward to it's new release................ until now.

I had absolutely no back information on this car when I first saw it. I immediatly thought: "why does this thing look so much like a BMW?" Now I know why.

I truly don't understand why Toyota would rely on another manufacturer to produce a car that has such a rich history and has been anticipated by the car community for over 20 years. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this was a serious mistake. Mistake number 2: it only comes mated to an automatic transmission. Clearly they aren't listening to enthusiasts.

Just my $0.02

And you know what's funny? The '20 Subaru Sti will be faster and will probably cost less

the sad thing is, just another loud sti you see on the street driven by teens

CRiZO · 01-17-2019, 12:06 AM

Honestly, I hardly see sti's anymore. What's up with that? I saw a really clean one today and thought to myself "I don't think I've seen another sti in months". They were so popular in their bugeye days.

Lvcky69 · 01-17-2019, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CRiZO

Honestly, I hardly see sti's anymore. What's up with that? I saw a really clean one today and thought to myself "I don't think I've seen another sti in months". They were so popular in their bugeye days.

I live in Miami but fly to Orlando for work business every two weeks and I see more sti's or wrx's in Orlando than in Miami. In Miami you will see more high-end cars than in Orlando. Seen at least 5 type R's in Orl and only 1 in Miami

ZCanadian · 01-17-2019, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CRiZO

So much cheaper, faster, better balanced, lower center of gravity, better tech, and safer than the previous Supra. Why did they bother?

Did you know 50% of people who buy the M2 prefer it in auto?

Yup.
But 50% for a manual transmission is a stellar number for any car unless it’s and incredibly low volume seller. Four people will always want a stick shift. The rest want to drive fast!

280driver · 01-17-2019, 11:33 AM

Really looks like to more aggressive 86/BRZ. Not impressed.

osbornsm · 01-17-2019, 02:33 PM

*J*ap***V*et* · 01-17-2019, 03:17 PM

I expected more....with such a heritage as the Supra. Not a bad vehicle by any means I just personally expected more...

01-16-2019, 02:17 PM	#46 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 21	I bet it is a sweet ride based on how well I loved the BMW M240i xDrive. Need to see it in person in regard to the aesthetics, but I probably won’t buy even though I have been interested in it. The BMW M240i xDrive seems more compelling now. UNKNOWN_370 likes this.

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	Here's a comparison between the 1998 and the 2020 https://www-autoblog-com.cdn.ampproj...-comparison%2F __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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Spartan 1771 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,280 Drives: Wife crazy & 09 370Z Rep Power: 105453	Although I have absolutley no plans to trade in my Z for a Supra, I was really looking forward to it's new release................ until now. I had absolutely no back information on this car when I first saw it. I immediatly thought: "why does this thing look so much like a BMW?" Now I know why. I truly don't understand why Toyota would rely on another manufacturer to produce a car that has such a rich history and has been anticipated by the car community for over 20 years. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this was a serious mistake. Mistake number 2: it only comes mated to an automatic transmission. Clearly they aren't listening to enthusiasts. Just my $0.02 Jap**Vet* likes this. __________________ ~Rob -DD Air Guide, Stillen G3 CAIs, 63mm Throttle Bodies, Motordyne M370, Berk HFCs, FI TDX CBE (non-res, CF), Sprint booster v3, Ecutek Dyno Tuned, and the list goes on...

01-17-2019, 11:33 AM	#58 (permalink)
280driver Base Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Virginia Posts: 128 Drives: 1975 280Z Rep Power: 8	Really looks like to more aggressive 86/BRZ. Not impressed. Spartan 1771 and Falconquey like this.

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CRiZO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Dallas Posts: 672 Drives: in traffic Rep Power: 20698	So much cheaper, faster, better balanced, lower center of gravity, better tech, and safer than the previous Supra. Why did they bother? Did you know 50% of people who buy the M2 prefer it in auto?

01-17-2019, 12:06 AM	#55 (permalink)
CRiZO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Dallas Posts: 672 Drives: in traffic Rep Power: 20698	Honestly, I hardly see sti's anymore. What's up with that? I saw a really clean one today and thought to myself "I don't think I've seen another sti in months". They were so popular in their bugeye days.

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Jap**Vet* Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Illinois Posts: 479 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 115133	I expected more....with such a heritage as the Supra. Not a bad vehicle by any means I just personally expected more... Spartan 1771, wanker, Zingston and 1 others like this.

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