2020 Supra... first thoughts

God-Speed · 01-15-2019, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volk Z

It just makes no sense why their halo car got a motor from a bmw that's moderate power and from a company that makes unreliable engines...

Imagine Nissan having the next GTR using a Mercedes engine...

Honestly most of us will change our mind once we see some stances and boosted up the wazoo but without a manual and going in with a bmw engine the stacks against Toyota...

Proof is in the pudding, a manual is inevitable to follow if it doesnt flop.

Cory Gillmore · 01-15-2019, 10:38 PM

People talking about the price is too much when it's 50k...it's about the same as a new Nismo, it's faster and basically better in every way except looks, which is subjective. I mean obviously this forum is going to have some bias but let's not be here delusional people...I'm actually amazed that these start at 50k. No one expected these to start at 50k.

Quicksilvers · 01-15-2019, 11:12 PM

I think the 2020 Toyota Supra is definitely a good idea for Toyota to produce as it will be a long time coming. This new BMW engine will not be the most reliable engine like the original 2JZ engine. Also from what I found out it will be priced higher than the average consumer can afford at just under 60K. We will just have to wait and see what Toyota really decides to enveil in 2020??

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-15-2019, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory Gillmore

People talking about the price is too much when it's 50k...it's about the same as a new Nismo, it's faster and basically better in every way except looks, which is subjective. I mean obviously this forum is going to have some bias but let's not be here delusional people...I'm actually amazed that these start at 50k. No one expected these to start at 50k.

Agreed... The hate is real. I think it looks sharp. I just need a review from a trusted reporter and a test drive to feel anything more than it's looks.

Im praying this car will push Nissan to build a Z very soon?

Here's an article of the differences between the Z4 n Supra.

https://jalopnik-com.cdn.ampproject....upr-1831780403

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-15-2019, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volk Z

It just makes no sense why their halo car got a motor from a bmw that's moderate power and from a company that makes unreliable engines...

Imagine Nissan having the next GTR using a Mercedes engine...

Honestly most of us will change our mind once we see some stances and boosted up the wazoo but without a manual and going in with a bmw engine the stacks against Toyota...

Proof is in the pudding, a manual is inevitable to follow if it doesnt flop.

To my understanding. Benz engines are solid. BMW engines are good. The problems with these cars are overengineered electronic systems that make them unreliable. Which is very expensive to fix. Toyota with minimized electronics and its own tune should keep this carvreliable.

Cyber370 · 01-16-2019, 05:13 AM

BMW anything is a deal breaker for me. If I wanted a BMW, I’d buy a BMW! I hate when manufacturers buy platforms and just slap on redesigned sheet metal and call it their own. This has never been a successful option for any car maker in the past. It will be interesting to see what happens here.

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Zingston · 01-16-2019, 06:44 AM

More on the 4 cylinder Supra:

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201.../#more-1656568

Volk Z · 01-16-2019, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

To my understanding. Benz engines are solid. BMW engines are good. The problems with these cars are overengineered electronic systems that make them unreliable. Which is very expensive to fix. Toyota with minimized electronics and its own tune should keep this carvreliable.

You missed my point my friend. I'm saying why would you reproduce your halo car and not have your engine in it. The GTR and Supra are not famous and feared because they look sexy... they were feared for the power and reliability of the rb26 and 2jz.

I've been tracking the ft1 supra for years. If I knew it was going to have a crappy bmw engine I wouldnt have even thought twice. Mercedes engines may be a step up from bmw for reliability BUT that's missing the point.

eZg · 01-16-2019, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Zingston

More on the 4 cylinder Supra:

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201.../#more-1656568

Sports car enthusiasts have been waiting more than 20 years for the return of Supra and will soon be able to purchase the 2020 Toyota GR Supra for a Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price of $49,990.

well the GR is a Turbo inline 6 at $49K. Guess the 4's will be less. I'm going to be pissed if this is a bait and switch. Just like Porsche going to Turbo 4 @ $70K-$100K. Forget that crap

eZg · 01-16-2019, 08:32 AM

more info from press release

https://toyotanews.pressroom.toyota....90+dollars.htm

Zingston · 01-16-2019, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by eZg

Sports car enthusiasts have been waiting more than 20 years for the return of Supra and will soon be able to purchase the 2020 Toyota GR Supra for a Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price of $49,990.

well the GR is a Turbo inline 6 at $49K. Guess the 4's will be less. I'm going to be pissed if this is a bait and switch. Just like Porsche going to Turbo 4 @ $70K-$100K. Forget that crap

Ha ha! I agree... a 4 banger Porsche for 70k + is a load of horse sh** at best!

Lvcky69 · 01-16-2019, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cory Gillmore

People talking about the price is too much when it's 50k...it's about the same as a new Nismo, it's faster and basically better in every way except looks, which is subjective. I mean obviously this forum is going to have some bias but let's not be here delusional people...I'm actually amazed that these start at 50k. No one expected these to start at 50k.

I really dont care about the price. Toyota dropped the ball when they didn't make the supra manual. That's why a lot of ppl are upset. A 50k car with only 335hp and not only that, it is auto, shoot, might as well save up some more and get yourself an m4 or the new audi rs5 or even the z06. I'm just happy that companies like Porsche, BMW and Chevy are still making their sports car manual.

ColtronZ · 01-16-2019, 10:29 AM

I like it more in this than the pictures I must admit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka4Vo_ZvUaM

eZg · 01-16-2019, 10:42 AM

/\/\ agreed

JTM88 · 01-16-2019, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ColtronZ

I like it more in this than the pictures I must admit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka4Vo_ZvUaM

Damn it looks way better on video than in pictures.

01-15-2019, 10:38 PM	#32 (permalink)
Cory Gillmore Base Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 113 Drives: 09 Sport/Touring MT Rep Power: 3362	People talking about the price is too much when it's 50k...it's about the same as a new Nismo, it's faster and basically better in every way except looks, which is subjective. I mean obviously this forum is going to have some bias but let's not be here delusional people...I'm actually amazed that these start at 50k. No one expected these to start at 50k. sunkist350z and UNKNOWN_370 like this.

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Cyber370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 679 Drives: 2016 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 19371	BMW anything is a deal breaker for me. If I wanted a BMW, I’d buy a BMW! I hate when manufacturers buy platforms and just slap on redesigned sheet metal and call it their own. This has never been a successful option for any car maker in the past. It will be interesting to see what happens here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk UNKNOWN_370 and Spartan 1771 like this. __________________ "That’s when you know you’ve found somebody special. When you can just shut the fck up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence.”-Mia (Pulp Fiction)*

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ColtronZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 310 Drives: 17 370z Rep Power: 6295	I like it more in this than the pictures I must admit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka4Vo_ZvUaM __________________ 318hp/255tq made by FI Res Test Pipes, FI Non-Res Catback, Z1 Intakes, and EcuTek Tuned by RS-Enthalpy

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Quicksilvers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,039 Drives: 2017 370z Rep Power: 25462	I think the 2020 Toyota Supra is definitely a good idea for Toyota to produce as it will be a long time coming. This new BMW engine will not be the most reliable engine like the original 2JZ engine. Also from what I found out it will be priced higher than the average consumer can afford at just under 60K. We will just have to wait and see what Toyota really decides to enveil in 2020??

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