2020 Supra... first thoughts

FL 4Motion · 09-11-2019, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

https://www.autoindustriya.com/featu...successor.html

I agree with this article... plus. In a world where affordable sports cars are scarce. In a world where 40k only buys you base powerhouse muscle or the only new used car on the planet. The Supra is a gift. I'm not even a toyota fanboy in the least. I wasnt a Supra worshipper of the past. I was an Rx7 guy all the way... But even I know Toyota wont put out an unreliable sports car!!! To think it will be is lunacy!!! That's one thing toyota dont play with that other car companies make secondary.

This car puts down respectable numbers. Seems torquey af and is a worthy entry with lap times that exceed its low on paper stats.
I know I know the corvette. But you're looking at $70k for a properly opted vette. Vs $54k for this properly opted. If $16,000 doesnt hurt you? Fine...
But for some $16k is gonna be a lot of extra car payment. And I can see them being sold for $50k out the door once the vette is out.

This might sound silly but it's the window down issue that's the deal breaker for me. I love driving with my windows down in good weather. But most people dont. So I pray Toyota sells the shyt out of these so Nissan and Mazda doesnt hesitate to make competitors.

Don’t sweat the wind buffeting issue, common problem with many sports cars since all the wind tunnel testing takes place with windows up normally.

Google “ porsche wind buffeting”. Solutions are out there, I’m sure there’ll be one for the Supra, esp since it’s German now.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-19-2019, 09:29 AM

https://youtu.be/zASl44yR1M0

This was an interesting matchup. I would've thought they'd use the Mustang PP2 considering the Supra Price. I think the Supra shouldve been either right behind or in front of the BMW M2? But it sounds like the Supra is balanced. It's more about the experience with Toyota. That should be their slogan.

Toyota
"Why win? Enjoy the experience "

ZCanadian · 09-19-2019, 04:13 PM

You got a "like" from me for the last line.

Or: "Toyota, the Ultimate Ricing Machine".

Anyway, I saw my first one in the flesh last weekend. I think most stereotypical Americans (includes a lot of Canadians who hang out at dount shops) will have a hard time getting in and out, or being comfortable in the cabin. Very tiny car for 2020.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-19-2019, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

You got a "like" from me for the last line.

Or: "Toyota, the Ultimate Ricing Machine".

Anyway, I saw my first one in the flesh last weekend. I think most stereotypical Americans (includes a lot of Canadians who hang out at dount shops) will have a hard time getting in and out, or being comfortable in the cabin. Very tiny car for 2020.

That's actually a + in my book. Cars are too big. If its 86 size? Its perfect!! That's the one thing I really love about the 86. The size

ZCanadian · 09-19-2019, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

That's actually a + in my book. Cars are too big. If its 86 size? Its perfect!! That's the one thing I really love about the 86. The size

Actually, my impression was that the size comparison of Supra to the 86 would be like the 4C to the 370Z. I think you’ve seen the photos of that comparison I’ve posted before.

Edit: found this...

And this

The 86 being a known quantity, I’m not sure about Supra. Unless it’s like the Tardis - bigger on the inside. Guessing the C8 will be made to measure for American dimensions.

FL 4Motion · 09-22-2019, 12:20 AM

Saw a Supra in person up close on Friday. It looks worlds better in person than the pictures which don’t do it justice. Still not a fan of the faux vents on it, but that was the only real let down visually. The proportions are good, it seems bigger in the flesh.

The dash/interior is straight up bmw, It looks even more beemer in person, esp the shifter.

All said, I like it even more now compared to previously.

Hope the driving experience is up to par as well. In this rough price range, if I were looking for a new sports car/sports coupe, it’d probably be either this or an m2.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-22-2019, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Actually, my impression was that the size comparison of Supra to the 86 would be like the 4C to the 370Z. I think you’ve seen the photos of that comparison I’ve posted before.

Edit: found this...

And this

The 86 being a known quantity, I’m not sure about Supra. Unless it’s like the Tardis - bigger on the inside. Guessing the C8 will be made to measure for American dimensions.

I actually haven't seen the comparison. Sorry. But in my head. I thought an MR2 that is rumored to be coming would be closer to a 4c than a Supra. I was surprised just to know the Supra had no back seats! But when I learned it was a two seater I expected it to be a direct Z competitor.

Rusty · 09-22-2019, 02:34 PM

What I read about the return of the MR2 is that it's mostly thought to be electric.

sunkist350z · 09-26-2019, 12:23 AM

Fool already crashes his new 2020 supra on track day. He should be learning to drive a coralla first lol.
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/09/cr...cringy-moment/

Hotrodz · 09-26-2019, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z

Fool already crashes his new 2020 supra on track day. He should be learning to drive a coralla first lol.
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/09/cr...cringy-moment/

Jackie Ding is the real deal. The kid drives the chit out of a car and has more experience than many of us combined. He did his early days as an Indy light driver. He bought the car with the soul purpose of competing in Global Time Attack. He also had track insurance on the car so he planned for the worst. I feel for him and admire his commitment to tracking and taking that platform to the top. I'm confident he will be back at the track in another Supra real soon.

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ZCanadian · 09-26-2019, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Jackie Ding is the real deal. The kid drives the chit out of a car and has more experience than many of us combined. He did his early days as an Indy light driver. He bought the car with the soul purpose of competing in Global Time Attack. He also had track insurance on the car so he planned for the worst. I feel for him and admire his commitment to tracking and taking that platform to the top. I'm confident he will be back at the track in another Supra real soon.

Have heard this from others who know him as well.

Someone suggested that he wasn't even pushing the car at the time - dropped 2 wheels on the grass for whatever reason. It can happen. Sad to see it happen to any car let alone a new one!

Hotrodz · 09-26-2019, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Have heard this from others who know him as well.

Someone suggested that he wasn't even pushing the car at the time - dropped 2 wheels on the grass for whatever reason. It can happen. Sad to see it happen to any car let alone a new one!

Yeah, the video of incident is on YouTube and you are correct as he was not pushing hard and just ran a little wide dropping two wheels and game over. It happens to the best professional drivers where they drop a wheel or two behind the safety car or just cold tires leaving the pits and things just go south sometimes.

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ZCanadian · 09-26-2019, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunkist350z

Fool already crashes his new 2020 supra on track day. He should be learning to drive a coralla first lol.
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/09/cr...cringy-moment/

NOTE that there is a video link in the above (two, actually) - Kaspersky Security denies me access to the second one due to a trojan detected. Just FYI to anyone trying to view it without updated AV software and patched players.

Ventruck · 09-29-2019, 06:54 PM

Yeah his narration can sometimes be excessive, but the guy can drive.

On another note, Adam LZ has a raffle for his Supra. ~600HP via turbo upgrade/mapping/meth. Suspension and wheels being worked on. Would've entered but Lolifornia and I can't house a track car.

ptrinh301 · 09-30-2019, 07:36 PM

Saw a 2020 Supra last night in the parking lot, the car is mid-blue. I was excited, approached it immediately.

The car looks small, properly the same size as our Z.

To be honest, the car is not really a turn head for me. For $60+, I rather spend
my money for a Nismo Z or an used GTR. I know some will say your Z is 11 year olds and outdated, but to me it still sexy af.

I am not a Supra hater, just my 2 cents opinion.

09-19-2019, 09:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	Supra vs Mustang https://youtu.be/zASl44yR1M0 This was an interesting matchup. I would've thought they'd use the Mustang PP2 considering the Supra Price. I think the Supra shouldve been either right behind or in front of the BMW M2? But it sounds like the Supra is balanced. It's more about the experience with Toyota. That should be their slogan. Toyota "Why win? Enjoy the experience " __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

09-22-2019, 02:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,558 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684439	What I read about the return of the MR2 is that it's mostly thought to be electric. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

09-30-2019, 07:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
ptrinh301 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: orange county Posts: 21 Drives: 2015 370Z Touring Rep Power: 425	2020 Toyota Supra Saw a 2020 Supra last night in the parking lot, the car is mid-blue. I was excited, approached it immediately. The car looks small, properly the same size as our Z. To be honest, the car is not really a turn head for me. For $60+, I rather spend my money for a Nismo Z or an used GTR. I know some will say your Z is 11 year olds and outdated, but to me it still sexy af. I am not a Supra hater, just my 2 cents opinion.

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09-19-2019, 04:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
ZCanadian A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 1,061 Drives: 2013 370Z Rep Power: 60274	You got a "like" from me for the last line. Or: "Toyota, the Ultimate Ricing Machine". Anyway, I saw my first one in the flesh last weekend. I think most stereotypical Americans (includes a lot of Canadians who hang out at dount shops) will have a hard time getting in and out, or being comfortable in the cabin. Very tiny car for 2020.

09-22-2019, 12:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701616	Saw a Supra in person up close on Friday. It looks worlds better in person than the pictures which don’t do it justice. Still not a fan of the faux vents on it, but that was the only real let down visually. The proportions are good, it seems bigger in the flesh. The dash/interior is straight up bmw, It looks even more beemer in person, esp the shifter. All said, I like it even more now compared to previously. Hope the driving experience is up to par as well. In this rough price range, if I were looking for a new sports car/sports coupe, it’d probably be either this or an m2.

09-26-2019, 12:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
sunkist350z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Z-land Posts: 1,009 Drives: 2012 370z sport 6-sp Rep Power: 55342	Fool already crashes his new 2020 supra on track day. He should be learning to drive a coralla first lol. https://www.carscoops.com/2019/09/cr...cringy-moment/

09-29-2019, 06:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ventruck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: California Posts: 785 Drives: '13 Sport+Touring M6 Rep Power: 22899	Yeah his narration can sometimes be excessive, but the guy can drive. On another note, Adam LZ has a raffle for his Supra. ~600HP via turbo upgrade/mapping/meth. Suspension and wheels being worked on. Would've entered but Lolifornia and I can't house a track car.