Sell my Z for Alfa Romeo 4C?

scope22

if you going to post a link, post one to OEM spec'ed car with a price we can compare and bitch how Nissan hasn't updated Z in 8 years, otherwise its a fully built race car so i'm not sure what to say about it....

UNKNOWN_370

You're right about that...

I'm going to say something VERY CONTROVERSIAL. but true....

Everybody wants to Big Up the Cayman as the superior car. The Cayman is composed of EVERY ELECTRONIC gadget available to make it be what it is.... It's a computer on wheels with the best ARTIFICIAL ELECTRIC STEERING money can buy. This in my opinion goes against EVERYTHING that driving should be. Our current Z is the most electronic intervention I can tolerate from a car.

The 4C IS EVERYTHING a car should be. I don't even think the car has anti lock brakes. No power steering. 2400lbs no power assist on the steering. It's ths most pure driving machine on the planet. It has v8 muscle car numbers with a tiny forced induction 4banger.... It's a retro marvel. A one of a kind. Porsche is a status quo car. More hype than substance by comparison of the Alfa. The Alfa is the truest sports car on the planet right now for the money because it's the most visceral.

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triso07

There is nothing hyped about the Cayman. It is every bit as good as the reviews say it is. The 981 model also sounds glorious with the flat 6 and is extremely well built and usable without all the drawbacks of the Alpha.

As a pure toy, maybe this is reasonable, otherwise ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyL-5WQzMQE

UNKNOWN_370

I'm not saying it doesn't drive great. But here are some unavoidable facts you might want to ponder on to understand where I'm coming from.

Feedback is almost nill from Porsche electronic power steering.

Everything glorious about the current gen Cayman is based on electronic intervention. Be it, steering feel, intelligent traction control distributing power to each wheel. Computer controlled damping etc.... all of what's happening is artificial to make you look like a champion.

Get in a Z. Turn off VDC, Get over 30mph and all your electronic assists are off. Even with vdc on you just don't get the same level of intervention.

Sure Porsche intervention is seamless. It's about as perfect as a traction system can be. But the advantages of a Porsche ECU will always be the dominant factor of your driving experience. Your inputs are always enhanced.

That is not true of a Z. The meaning of a drivers car had been skewed in the new millennium.

A 4c.... now that's what a real sports car should be. Same as the viper.

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