2018 Toyota Supra

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Guess I'm just spoiled as my 2015 sports car's curb weight is 2,445 lbs (including air con, air bags, leather seats and dash, floor mats - this isn't a stripped out car by any means).

That's where I'm coming from with regard to the 370Z being a bit of a porker at 800 lbs more! True, mine also cost more like the Supra's expected list, not the Z's.

IF the Supra comes in at the same weight but significantly more torque (especially from 2,500RPM), OR at significantly lower weight with similar torque but more available across the rev band, then I think it would be the better car. Maybe not "10 years" better. If it lands with both, then it might be worth the price tag suggested in that article.

Time will tell.

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony

Originally Posted by FPenvy

a miata isn't a sports car........


torque will be there it's turbocharged. it actually better be there lol. also we all know it'll be there, the engine is already in production cars and this will probably be slightly bumped up from those.

so yes, more TQ and same weight makes it worthy of being a sports car however i reserve all rights to call it trash if it looks like shit.

the BRZ was trash. they have that looming above their heads.

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

You definitely get the right to call it what it is, whatever that may be!

The 86 platform has its supporters, and it isn't bad. But it's not great either. It was another "sports car that has to be everything to everyone" that wound up not being a huge success. Surprise!

So, I agree with you - this one really has to hit the bullseye. From that article, it sounds like this is possible. But we'll see. I hated the reference to a possible low-power version coming out later. There's that "all things to all people" again. Maybe they'll put out a crossover edition, too.

Some Miata... ;-)

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony