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carlitos_370z 03-07-2018 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3736488)
That's not in question. It's been confirmed that it's using a BMW turbo inline 6. That's been confirmed for months, if not years.

:iagree:

Chuck33079 03-07-2018 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 3736492)
I have seen no confirmed production specs whatsoever. Every morning the first thing I do is a search on "toyota supra". Please provide this information because I have been dying to see it.

https://jalopnik.com/leaked-bmw-mode...pra-1797682494

Then you've undoubtedly seen this. Not a concrete release from Toyota, but pretty solid info from a BMW leak. If you're waiting for something official from Toyota, you'll have to wait until the car is in showrooms.

FPenvy 03-07-2018 07:24 AM

was kinda pumped to see the supra at geneva.................yet we get the race car concept.

BlackZeda 03-07-2018 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3736500)
https://jalopnik.com/leaked-bmw-mode...pra-1797682494

Then you've undoubtedly seen this. Not a concrete release from Toyota, but pretty solid info from a BMW leak. If you're waiting for something official from Toyota, you'll have to wait until the car is in showrooms.



Oh yeah, definitely seen it. Toyota must have hired someone from the CIA or other intelligence agency to orchestrate this psyops pre-marketing campaign because they definitely have writing about it to get all this buzz. Good thing that I am OK with delayed gratification :) Hopefully they are setting us up by setting different expectations and surprising us with an electric supercharged, Toyota produced inline 6 (it's a nice fantasy).

Regardless I would be accepting of a BMW inline 6 as I was very impressed with the one in the M240i...that thing liked to get and keep going! Match that with the low center of gravity and hopefully sub-3000lb weight, I am definitely a Toyota buyer!

Chuck33079 03-07-2018 08:44 AM

Yeah, the turbo six is the best thing BMW has going for them right now. Given that there's no way in hell Toyota's accountants will let them develop another indestructible motor like the 2JZ, this is better than anything they have brought to the table lately.

sunkist350z 03-07-2018 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3736548)
Yeah, the turbo six is the best thing BMW has going for them right now. Given that there's no way in hell Toyota's accountants will let them develop another indestructible motor like the 2JZ, this is better than anything they have brought to the table lately.

Them m3/m4 sound like S**T, I hope Toyota tunes the exhaust for this new supra lol

Spooler 03-07-2018 11:30 AM

You guys are smoking crack. No Supra for you. IF it does come out, it will be like Honda's NSX, all the hype for years and when it finally makes it everyone was saying whatever. Supra's were not that big of a deal in the 90's. The Nissan 300zxtt was. Everybody talked about that car, not the Supra.

sunkist350z 03-07-2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3736617)
You guys are smoking crack. No Supra for you. IF it does come out, it will be like Honda's NSX, all the hype for years and when it finally makes it everyone was saying whatever. Supra's were not that big of a deal in the 90's. The Nissan 300zxtt was. Everybody talked about that car, not the Supra.

Wow you sound like a z fanboy lol Dont kid yourself the mkIV supra was a supercar back then, dont get me wrong I loved the z32, still do, but they were comparing the supra to the euro sports cars back then.

ZCanadian 03-07-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3736651)
Wow you sound like a z fanboy lol Dont kid yourself the mkIV supra was a supercar back then, dont get me wrong I loved the z32, still do, but they were comparing the supra to the euro sports cars back then.

Ummmm, sports cars yes. Supercar? Not really.
While it would take the 300ZX TT, the MKIV would have its a55 handed to it by an NSX or other true supercar of the era.

Not saying it was a bad car - mainly because it was a great car. Will the new one live up to the legacy? Depends on what auto "journalist" you care to read when it eventually hits the ground. Most of them don't know sh!t from putty anyway, so I guess somebody here will just have to buy one and tell us all! ;)

sunkist350z 03-07-2018 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3736704)
Ummmm, sports cars yes. Supercar? Not really.
While it would take the 300ZX TT, the MKIV would have its a55 handed to it by an NSX or other true supercar of the era.

Not saying it was a bad car - mainly because it was a great car. Will the new one live up to the legacy? Depends on what auto "journalist" you care to read when it eventually hits the ground. Most of them don't know sh!t from putty anyway, so I guess somebody here will just have to buy one and tell us all! ;)

1st gen nsx only had 270hp where the supra had 320hp get your facts straight lol.

Zingston 03-07-2018 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3736704)
Ummmm, sports cars yes. Supercar? Not really.
While it would take the 300ZX TT, the MKIV would have its a55 handed to it by an NSX or other true supercar of the era.

Not saying it was a bad car - mainly because it was a great car. Will the new one live up to the legacy? Depends on what auto "journalist" you care to read when it eventually hits the ground. Most of them don't know sh!t from putty anyway, so I guess somebody here will just have to buy one and tell us all! ;)


My $$$ is on Carlitos being the first in line for the new Supra.

sunkist350z 03-07-2018 09:15 PM

Grand Turismo video game of the new supra, non the less still cool.

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/03/fi...virtual-world/

Wonka2581 03-07-2018 09:54 PM

https://jalopnik.com/heres-the-toyot...rbu-1787019309

carlitos_370z 03-08-2018 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3736713)
My $$$ is on Carlitos being the first in line for the new Supra.

I hope God here you bro! but trust me... Im going to follow this car from close and I hope Toyota don't make the mistake to put a sky rocket price like happen with the NSX... well the NSX when you read the specs and HP make sense I think, but hey bro.... the rumors are that this Supra are going to have just 338hp... with those numbers on table (If are true) my bet is that the price are going to be close to the same price that the new 370z Nismo... Time will tell but if im not wrong, the new Supra are going to be my next car for sure...

Lets see what happen

ZCanadian 03-08-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3736706)
1st gen nsx only had 270hp where the supra had 320hp get your facts straight lol.

Too bad that with all those extra HP's, SA80 still could not beat NSX 3.0 around the same track with the same driver! :icon17:

Not knocking what Toyota did with that car, but pumping up a version of a street car does not really make it a "supercar" in my opinion. That was the terminology I was objecting to. Since one man's supercar is another's sports car, it's all good.

ZCanadian 03-08-2018 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3736967)
I hope God here you bro! but trust me... Im going to follow this car from close and I hope Toyota don't make the mistake to put a sky rocket price like happen with the NSX... well the NSX when you read the specs and HP make sense I think, but hey bro.... the rumors are that this Supra are going to have just 338hp... with those numbers on table (If are true) my bet is that the price are going to be close to the same price that the new 370z Nismo... Time will tell but if im not wrong, the new Supra are going to be my next car for sure...

Lets see what happen

Good luck with it, bro!
I hope you are able to score one, and that it's everything you want it to be.
In other words, I hope that Toyota does this one right.
There's always room for one more good sports car in the world.
Might even force other marques to up their game (cough, cough, Nissan, cough, cough).

carlitos_370z 03-08-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3737008)
Good luck with it, bro!
I hope you are able to score one, and that it's everything you want it to be.
In other words, I hope that Toyota does this one right.
There's always room for one more good sports car in the world.
Might even force other marques to up their game (cough, cough, Nissan, cough, cough).

:iagree: bro! I hope that Nissan make something soon with the Z or at least make the damn IDX to compete with the Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ platform... :icon14:

Chuck33079 03-08-2018 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3737048)
or at least make the damn IDX to compete with the Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ platform... :icon14:

Why? Other than the first year or two, those haven't been the sales hit people expected. That's probably why the IDX got canned. People just don't want 200hp sports cars, especially at $27k.

sunkist350z 03-08-2018 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3737053)
Why? Other than the first year or two, those haven't been the sales hit people expected. That's probably why the IDX got canned. People just don't want 200hp sports cars, especially at $27k.

Great point, :iagree:

Spooler 03-09-2018 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3736651)
Wow you sound like a z fanboy lol Dont kid yourself the mkIV supra was a supercar back then, dont get me wrong I loved the z32, still do, but they were comparing the supra to the euro sports cars back then.

Did Toyota run the Supra in the IMSA series. NO!!!! Super car. LOL, No where close. The Supra didn't become popular until Fast and Furious. I like Supra's, they were just not all that back in the day.

Chuck33079 03-09-2018 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3737372)
The Supra didn't become popular until Fast and Furious. I like Supra's, they were just not all that back in the day.

This.

When they were in showrooms, they were cool but not the world-beaters people think they were. It took the aftermarket a few years to catch up and make them the Supra we think of today. Plus, they were expensive as hell new.

They did get the hardcore domestic guys to start considering imports, though.

sunkist350z 03-09-2018 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3737372)
Did Toyota run the Supra in the IMSA series. NO!!!! Super car. LOL, No where close. The Supra didn't become popular until Fast and Furious. I like Supra's, they were just not all that back in the day.

Not true, when I had my FD3S in the mid-late 90's going to NJ Englishtown Racway the Supra was already dominating import drag 3/4 mile drag racing pushing over 800hp. Then again you were probably drinking from a baby bottle and craping in diapers in the late to mid 1990's Lol

Spooler 03-09-2018 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3737495)
Not true, when I had my FD3S in the mid-late 90's going to NJ Englishtown Racway the Supra was already dominating import drag 3/4 mile drag racing pushing over 800hp. Then again you were probably drinking from a baby bottle and craping in diapers in the late to mid 1990's Lol

Ah, Nope. I was in the USAF in the early 90's. Just deal with it. Not everybody is a Supra lover.

RicerX 03-13-2018 10:41 AM

Stopped in here to see if this car is still vaporware. Not disappointed.

Toyota is getting as bad as Nissan at product launches.

ZCanadian 03-13-2018 11:45 AM

Geneva is half over. And all they did is reveal a racing CONCEPT.
And BMW does not seem to have presented its Teutonic brother there either.

I guess that a proper launch is still aways away. IF EVER.

That's the game with highly anticipated new cars. You wait and wait. The media falls for the hype and tries to whip up excitement (because "media" is all about drama anymore). Then watch dealers try to put premiums on the first ones to hit lots. For a Toyota? No thank you.

I'd really suggest going out and buying any of the the AVAILABLE, proven, good, fun cars already on the market today. New or used. By the time that's worn out, there might be a Supra on the lot for you.

Nixin 03-21-2018 10:48 AM

I was at the Geneva auto show on the last day. I saw the new race clad Supra. Nothing awe inspiring, IMHO. I really liked the looks of the Alfa Romeo 4C (in silver) and Alpine A110 (in blue) though.

UNKNOWN_370 03-21-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3737372)
Did Toyota run the Supra in the IMSA series. NO!!!! Super car. LOL, No where close. The Supra didn't become popular until Fast and Furious. I like Supra's, they were just not all that back in the day.

In my neighborhood. Supra and Celica were super popular since they were the hatchbacks. I would call them the 2nd most popular car to Puerto Ricans before the KING of imports to our people. As were the rwd corolla, when they were boxy. 240z, starion conquest, and then to the average Puerto Rican. The KING of all these cars is the Mazda Rx7. They've been popular on the island and in NYC as long as I can remember. Way before F&F. But different cultures respect different things at different intervals.

ZCanadian 03-21-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixin (Post 3740602)
I was at the Geneva auto show on the last day. I saw the new race clad Supra. Nothing awe inspiring, IMHO. I really liked the looks of the Alfa Romeo 4C (in silver) and Alpine A110 (in blue) though.

The Alpine is an interesting option - too bad we won't likely be getting them here.
Of course, your local fire department will be happy about that...

https://www.topgear.com/sites/defaul...5/alp2_116.jpg

Nixin 03-21-2018 03:24 PM

I don't know if any car is 100% fire proof but the reviews on the Alpine A110 have been quite spectacular. Some say it is even better than the new Porsche 718.

Cyber370 03-23-2018 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixin (Post 3740685)
I don't know if any car is 100% fire proof but the reviews on the Alpine A110 have been quite spectacular. Some say it is even better than the new Porsche 718.



Especially since the new Porsche 718 engine sounds like absolute crap. Even aftermarket exhausts cannot fix it much.


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ZCanadian 03-23-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber370 (Post 3741047)
Especially since the new Porsche 718 engine sounds like absolute crap. Even aftermarket exhausts cannot fix it much.

In fairness, a turbo 4 can only sound so good. It will never be the sweet sound of a flat 6 in the outgoing Cayman. The 4C is loud, but not particularly proud (turbo noises are far more stirring than the exhaust). I suspect that the Alpine is similar in that respect. In fact, in Normal mode most reviews call that one quite subdued.

The stock 370Z exhaust isn't particularly harmonious for an NA-6 sports car - but fortunately can be improved with some modification. Speaking of which, I have to get on that for my wife's car this year. What's the recommended catback exhaust for "robust, mildly annoyingly loud with deep and exciting tone"? (sounds like the description on a wine bottle)

BlackZeda 03-23-2018 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3741149)
In fairness, a turbo 4 can only sound so good. It will never be the sweet sound of a flat 6 in the outgoing Cayman. The 4C is loud, but not particularly proud (turbo noises are far more stirring than the exhaust). I suspect that the Alpine is similar in that respect. In fact, in Normal mode most reviews call that one quite subdued.

The stock 370Z exhaust isn't particularly harmonious for an NA-6 sports car - but fortunately can be improved with some modification. Speaking of which, I have to get on that for my wife's car this year. What's the recommended catback exhaust for "robust, mildly annoyingly loud with deep and exciting tone"? (sounds like the description on a wine bottle)

I love my Fast Intentions. It is not obnoxious but you can definitely hear when my car is around. They are custom made, so you can talk to Tony to get exactly what you want. I have the 18" resonated with carbon fiber cans. I also have the resonated HFCs.

Nixin 03-24-2018 10:23 AM

The recommended CBE is the one from FAST INTENTIONS. I love mine.

Zingston 03-24-2018 11:33 AM

Supra update:

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/03/20...japanese-icon/

sunkist350z 03-24-2018 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3741383)

That rendering looks gorgeous, I like the baby blue color:yum:

Zingston 03-24-2018 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3741404)
That rendering looks gorgeous, I like the baby blue color:yum:

Yeah, that one looks cool. I like the split nose design vs the dolphin nose look.

zeeder 03-25-2018 11:54 AM

I also like the green. Hopefully there will be this and a new Z to cross-shop in a few years when I'm ready to change cars!

Zingston 03-31-2018 04:56 PM

Supra DCT:

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/03/ne...-transmission/

Zerafian 03-31-2018 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3743406)

"He then explained that the next Supra may have too much power to make a manual gearbox viable. He also said that once customers get a taste of the dual-clutch transmission being developed, they’ll no longer yearn for a stick-shift."

say wat now:bowrofl:

My last two cars have been auto and even I know thats a joke.

BlackZeda 04-01-2018 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Zerafian (Post 3743429)
"He then explained that the next Supra may have too much power to make a manual gearbox viable. He also said that once customers get a taste of the dual-clutch transmission being developed, they’ll no longer yearn for a stick-shift."

say wat now:bowrofl:

My last two cars have been auto and even I know thats a joke.

Correct me if I am wrong, but a DCT is not necessarily an automatic, but most are. As far as pure performance goes, I think DCT is the way to go, even though you would lose some fun compared to a manual and clutch pedal. As long as they offer, and I am sure they will, a manual mode I am fine with a DCT.


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