2016 Nissan Maxima

JARblue · 04-03-2015, 09:55 AM

It's not the leather I dislike. It's that gaping mouth at the bottom. With the speedo and tach looking like eyes, it makes the whole thing look like the face of idiot taffy-apple

Davey · 04-03-2015, 11:33 AM

I'm pretty much Nissan's target demographic for this car. I want a V6, somewhat sporty or at least sort of fun to drive, four-door car that I can use for long trips and other things where my 2nd car (the Z) don't work. Clearly I have some history/knowledge in terms of Nissan cars, a good dealer that I trust, etc.

And even with all those "ins" I would buy an Accord instead.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-03-2015, 12:26 PM

https://youtu.be/yVoVeJJYwlI

This was funny.... lol

The maxima is a family car for aggressive women with a lead foot.

At least we know we are getting a flat bottom steering wheel in the Z35. The maxima is another car that gets Z parts bin aside from the juke.

GaleForce · 04-03-2015, 12:37 PM

Hmm.... I've seen that steering wheel somewhere before....

6spd · 04-03-2015, 12:43 PM

A leather stitched dash in the next Z is a must.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-03-2015, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

A leather stitched dash in the next Z is a must.

Probably will be standard in the Z35 touring pkg?

6spd · 04-03-2015, 01:50 PM

I would think it'd be standard, but you never know. Oh and better "leather" than the thin paper stuff currently in our cars!

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-03-2015, 02:06 PM

All i know is that CVT in the Maxima better have magical powers and unicorn blood for transmission fluid... Nissan should be upgrading it's 7at or giving us the old GT-R DCT for its sports cars in reality...

6spd · 04-03-2015, 02:18 PM

Nissan's CVT's are too unreliable across the board. To have SOOOOO many cars have trans go out at 40k miles should be a clear indication you have a bad product.

SS_Firehawk · 04-03-2015, 03:02 PM

To be fair, I've owned two Maxima's, a 11' and a 14'. I've never had a problem with the CVT. CVT issues on 7th gen Maxima's are minimal. If you want to look at tranny issues, Ford, GM, Chrysler/Dodge (ZF 8 speed and 9 speed tranny's) over the past few years. The Max is one of the most reliable cars in Nissan's lineup, along with the Z, which may sound funny... But they are also the oldest. They've had plenty of time to fix most of the issues. Why the CSC issue still exists is beyond me.

Don't buy the Maxima if you're looking for what the Q50 already has. The Maxima has plenty of power, not very heavy, handles pretty damn well (you can get them with 19" Bridgestone RE50A's from the factory as a no cost option on the SV sport.), and has most meaningful bells and whistles. I'd recommend the Maxima all day. I challenge anyone to drive any midsize sedan back to back with the Maxima, it's the little things that make it better. Steering feel, turn in response, handling, material sound/ride quality (unless it's an SV sport, then it's sports car rough). I f'n love the current Max, even with it's CVT. Not gonna lie though, a good DCT or 7AT would be better, but because it doesn't have that doesn't make it a bad car.

Not defending the looks of the new Maxima, it's not that good looking, but I can guarantee that if it's on the same chassis as the current one, it's almost guaranteed to drive really damn good.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-03-2015, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

To be fair, I've owned two Maxima's, a 11' and a 14'. I've never had a problem with the CVT. CVT issues on 7th gen Maxima's are minimal. If you want to look at tranny issues, Ford, GM, Chrysler/Dodge (ZF 8 speed and 9 speed tranny's) over the past few years. The Max is one of the most reliable cars in Nissan's lineup, along with the Z, which may sound funny... But they are also the oldest. They've had plenty of time to fix most of the issues. Why the CSC issue still exists is beyond me.

Don't buy the Maxima if you're looking for what the Q50 already has. The Maxima has plenty of power, not very heavy, handles pretty damn well (you can get them with 19" Bridgestone RE50A's from the factory as a no cost option on the SV sport.), and has most meaningful bells and whistles. I'd recommend the Maxima all day. I challenge anyone to drive any midsize sedan back to back with the Maxima, it's the little things that make it better. Steering feel, turn in response, handling, material sound/ride quality (unless it's an SV sport, then it's sports car rough). I f'n love the current Max, even with it's CVT. Not gonna lie though, a good DCT or 7AT would be better, but because it doesn't have that doesn't make it a bad car.

Not defending the looks of the new Maxima, it's not that good looking, but I can guarantee that if it's on the same chassis as the current one, it's almost guaranteed to drive really damn good.

All im saying is the tranny is all wrong for its supposed philosophy and sporting intentions. Thats why i said that the car was made for aggressive women with a lead foot. I had a 3.5 altima se with a cvt n it was a great fast and fun car, but the cvt did kinda suck the essense out of it's sporting intentions. it is what it is..

SS_Firehawk · 04-03-2015, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

All im saying is the tranny is all wrong for its supposed philosophy and sporting intentions. Thats why i said that the car was made for aggressive women with a lead foot. I had a 3.5 altima se with a cvt n it was a great fast and fun car, but the cvt did kinda suck the essense out of it's sporting intentions. it is what it is..

Sounds like my Wife

Davey · 04-03-2015, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue

It's not the leather I dislike. It's that gaping mouth at the bottom. With the speedo and tach looking like eyes, it makes the whole thing look like the face of idiot taffy-apple

Well, that's one way to look at it.

On the other hand, look how easy it would be to steer with your ****?

JARblue · 04-04-2015, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey

Well, that's one way to look at it.

On the other hand, look how easy it would be to steer with your ****?

RicerX · 04-06-2015, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

To be fair, I've owned two Maxima's, a 11' and a 14'. I've never had a problem with the CVT. CVT issues on 7th gen Maxima's are minimal. If you want to look at tranny issues, Ford, GM, Chrysler/Dodge (ZF 8 speed and 9 speed tranny's) over the past few years. The Max is one of the most reliable cars in Nissan's lineup, along with the Z, which may sound funny... But they are also the oldest. They've had plenty of time to fix most of the issues. Why the CSC issue still exists is beyond me.

Don't buy the Maxima if you're looking for what the Q50 already has. The Maxima has plenty of power, not very heavy, handles pretty damn well (you can get them with 19" Bridgestone RE50A's from the factory as a no cost option on the SV sport.), and has most meaningful bells and whistles. I'd recommend the Maxima all day. I challenge anyone to drive any midsize sedan back to back with the Maxima, it's the little things that make it better. Steering feel, turn in response, handling, material sound/ride quality (unless it's an SV sport, then it's sports car rough). I f'n love the current Max, even with it's CVT. Not gonna lie though, a good DCT or 7AT would be better, but because it doesn't have that doesn't make it a bad car.

Not defending the looks of the new Maxima, it's not that good looking, but I can guarantee that if it's on the same chassis as the current one, it's almost guaranteed to drive really damn good.

The reason behind Nissan not fixing the CSC issue is a matter of lowest common denominator. You can bet that if the Z was a volume car like the Altima it would be a different story.

The CVT is less of an issue when mated to a 3.5 and more of an issue on its 2.5 counterpart, but they're still a crapshoot. I have owned CVT-driven Altima coupes without issue, but can tell you their 6MT counterparts are completely different vehicles.

Now to my point - you say why buy the Maxima if you're looking for what the Q50 already has, and I say why buy the Maxima when the 3.5 Altima exists? It's not $3,000 better looking (yep, subjective for some), it's not $5,000 better driving (slightly less subjective, but still subjective), and it doesn't carry $8,000 more tech in the car (not subjective at all).

Those numbers represent a ballpark of how much more it costs you to get into a Maxima with respect to looks (S trim over Altima 3.5 SL), handling characteristics (SV trim over Altima SL), and all the tech (Platinum or SL or whatever).

You're paying a lot more money for not a lot more car. The car makes little sense if you look at the big picture of things - the Altima has been nipping at the Maxima's heels since 2002, and this generation needed something crucial to truly set it apart from an optioned out Altima. Hell, the last generation needed something to truly set it apart, and while it is indeed a nice car, it failed.

It looks different. That's it. And that's not enough.

04-03-2015, 09:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
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04-03-2015, 12:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	https://youtu.be/yVoVeJJYwlI This was funny.... lol The maxima is a family car for aggressive women with a lead foot. At least we know we are getting a flat bottom steering wheel in the Z35. The maxima is another car that gets Z parts bin aside from the juke. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 04-03-2015 at 12:32 PM.

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04-03-2015, 12:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	A leather stitched dash in the next Z is a must. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

04-03-2015, 01:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	I would think it'd be standard, but you never know. Oh and better "leather" than the thin paper stuff currently in our cars! __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

04-03-2015, 11:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117172	I'm pretty much Nissan's target demographic for this car. I want a V6, somewhat sporty or at least sort of fun to drive, four-door car that I can use for long trips and other things where my 2nd car (the Z) don't work. Clearly I have some history/knowledge in terms of Nissan cars, a good dealer that I trust, etc. And even with all those "ins" I would buy an Accord instead.

04-03-2015, 02:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	All i know is that CVT in the Maxima better have magical powers and unicorn blood for transmission fluid... Nissan should be upgrading it's 7at or giving us the old GT-R DCT for its sports cars in reality... __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

04-03-2015, 02:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	Nissan's CVT's are too unreliable across the board. To have SOOOOO many cars have trans go out at 40k miles should be a clear indication you have a bad product. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

04-03-2015, 03:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	To be fair, I've owned two Maxima's, a 11' and a 14'. I've never had a problem with the CVT. CVT issues on 7th gen Maxima's are minimal. If you want to look at tranny issues, Ford, GM, Chrysler/Dodge (ZF 8 speed and 9 speed tranny's) over the past few years. The Max is one of the most reliable cars in Nissan's lineup, along with the Z, which may sound funny... But they are also the oldest. They've had plenty of time to fix most of the issues. Why the CSC issue still exists is beyond me. Don't buy the Maxima if you're looking for what the Q50 already has. The Maxima has plenty of power, not very heavy, handles pretty damn well (you can get them with 19" Bridgestone RE50A's from the factory as a no cost option on the SV sport.), and has most meaningful bells and whistles. I'd recommend the Maxima all day. I challenge anyone to drive any midsize sedan back to back with the Maxima, it's the little things that make it better. Steering feel, turn in response, handling, material sound/ride quality (unless it's an SV sport, then it's sports car rough). I f'n love the current Max, even with it's CVT. Not gonna lie though, a good DCT or 7AT would be better, but because it doesn't have that doesn't make it a bad car. Not defending the looks of the new Maxima, it's not that good looking, but I can guarantee that if it's on the same chassis as the current one, it's almost guaranteed to drive really damn good. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

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