Anyone here in a Q50?

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THE Q60 has the new tt engine in the q50 the one to get is the hybrid. its faster than the ipl.

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b15

Hey Ricer, what are your thoughts on the 2015 sport vs the 2016? I'm leaning towards consolidating cars and the q50 is high on the list. There's also some deep discounts on 2015 right now. Pros of the 15 would be a proven drivetrain as I don't like being the guinea pig. We all know the pros of the 2016 so wondering your thoughts? I'm looking at an AWD sport with our without DAS

Joker_J

I was gonna get the Q50 if I didn't get the Z, but then my gf said it looked like a older guys car haha glad I went with her advice because the Z turns head and the Q...(theres too many) and driven by older dudes haha

RicerX

BE PREPARED - I'm about to get wordy.

I've been weighing this a lot myself actually. There are a few factors that haven't been made available to help me make a decision (one being price... how much is this thing going to be?!), the other being equipment changes.

I have a couple buyer's remorse things in my 2015. Luckily, you can still track down many 2015s that have these options that I didn't get, and I advise you to do so on the 2015 -

1) Rays wheels (Performance wheel and tire package). These also come with a physical spare. If you're not concerned about having a ton of trunk space, get the spare.

2) Navigation package. My car didn't have it, and I didn't think I would care for it... but almost a year into it and being acquainted with the InTouch system, staring at that clock on the top screen... meh. I would rather make use of the extra capability by having the Nav.

Other stuff I didn't get, but I didn't care about because this is my first luxury car -

1) Remote start. Would have been neat to have, but I can't figure out how it's packaged. I test drove several Q50s, but on purchase day, I drove two 2015 sports. One had the Rays wheels, one did not. I thought that was the only difference, but apparently there was something else on the car that carried the remote start feature. The only thing I do know is that neither car had navigation.

2) Seat memory (and it pairs with the intelligent key). This wasn't a priority for me - I rarely don't drive my car, so once it's dialed in, it usually stays there. Would be neat, but not worth getting the Deluxe Touring Package for.

As for the 2016 - I don't know if the Rays wheel package will still be available. It doesn't look like it, as the 2016 Red Sport models the press have been getting have staggered tire sizes on the new sport wheels (265 rear, 245 front). Many don't realize this, but the optional Rays wheels on the Q50 are four front 370Z rays wheels - square wheels, staggered tires. The rears would poke past the rear fenders. My 2015 Sport has the regular sport wheels with runflats, square 245 setup. They suck. Great DD tire, but the first time you try and have any fun with it, it's easy to overwhelm the tires. Plus, runflats are SUPER stiff and don't lend themselves well to the ride quality. I expect this to be exacerbated by the gobs of torque available in the 2016 Red Sport.

Another thing I have touched on in this thread is the lack of a limited slip differential. I don't know if that changes in the 2016 - there's nothing in any of the press releases that points one way or the other. I really wish they would, and that would be a tipping point toward the 2016. Otherwise, powertrain aside, the cars are identical. So I'll break down my final thoughts now.

I prefer naturally aspirated power. It's always on, always there, and there are less components to worry about failure points with. That said, stock turbo power, well executed, is also attractive to me. However, at the end of the day, I need to be able to trust my car - when I hit the start button, it needs to start, and it needs to safely take me from where I am to where I am going. A more tried and true powertrain brings me that peace of mind. People have hammered on the VQ37 on this forum with many different power adders, and I have read through it vigorously - I know where its failure points are. I also know that I can get to the 400hp mark with this car at the crank with bolt ons - so I can take this car to where the 2016 is (minus the torque) and still be n/a and have a VERY reliable daily driver with a good tune (I live within 2 hours of Z1 Motorsports). I would prefer to have that setup with the Rays wheels and a good LSD. Now, with the extra discounts, I would have absolutely sourced a properly equipped 2015 and taken advantage (and I would still be working on finding a true LSD solution).

If you want to mod and you want bang for the buck for your mod dollar, the 2016 is a no brainer. The aftermarket support for factory boosted cars is monstrous, and the new Q50 will be no exception. I have already talked to Fast Intentions, and they have already told me they will have a full lineup of parts available for the VR30 in the Q50/60. I imagine it's possible for the catback exhausts to carry over to the 14-15 Q50s, because I would think that since the turbo engine is dropping into the car otherwise built for the 3.7 that they'd be able to keep the mounting points for the catback the same, but I have been wrong there before. The other big change is the transmission, though - it's the M56 transmission, basically. It can handle the extra power of the VR30 (and probably a bit more). Now, you can source the 7AT upgrades available from Fast Intentions with their twin turbo setup for the 370Z and be in a good spot with the 3.7L Q50, but you won't have a transmission warranty.

(I also forgot about the dynamic suspension on the 2016 - you can adjust dampening via InTouch, which is neat, but not a priority for me - I like sport suspension all the time.)

TL;DR -

If you're happy with some simple bolt ons on a tried and true platform, the changes going to the twin turbo Q50 aren't quite enough to pay the premium on an as yet unproven powertrain. Take the money saved and rock a 2015.

If you want extra factory power now, and you want it under warranty, and you like the idea of having some cutting edge performance tech, the 2016 is the way to go. The Q50 red sport is more tweakable than a GT-R from the factory - with the performance packages, you can tune transmission shift logic, throttle tip in (and boost management -Sport+ Mode allows "overboost"), suspension dampening, and steering up to 150+ different combinations. Kinda neat, but lots to mess with. To each his own there. I wouldn't pay extra to get all that, but I would have fun with it if I had it (all things equal)

Let us know what you decide! If you end up considering a 2015 and shelve the idea of a 2016, go drive a Lexus IS350 F Sport before you drive a Q50 and let me know what you think. If you decide on a 2016, don't even bother with the Lexus - you'll be torque-drunk after driving the Q50 Red Sport.

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RicerX

Also - since I'm a dummy and apparently glossed over the AWD preference in your post, the LSD thing is not at all a problem for you - the AWD sport Q50s make use of actual LSDs... the RWD versions are open diff.

RicerX

A final point - DAS is COMPLETELY BETTER in the 2016. An AWD Red Sport 2016 with DAS should be a sweet freakin car. You might have to drive both. (Can you tell I have recently had my caffeine for the day?)

Slartibartfas

Will the RWD G pumpkin fit in the Q?

Regarding seat memory, I'm single and the only other people that drive my car are the Infiniti dealer guys. Every time the car has been returned it's like a 5-foot woman adjusted the seats. The memory, though not often used, is very nice to have.

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UNKNOWN_370

Nissan does better with first year turbos than first year N/A vehicles. I have no idea why Nissan strayed from turbo tech in the first place?

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b15

Wow I don't know how I missed this until now but thanks for the input Ricer. I looked at the IS, but the it's just too small. Throw an infant seat in the back and the front seat is useless. The Q has a roomier back seat and is more similar in size to my current TL which I find to be adequate. Instead I've been looking at the GS350 F sport. It's pricier but prefer it's styling and the larger wheelbase over the IS. This won't be the dedicated family car anyhow but it still needs to be roomy enough to accommodate three comfortably with the car seat.

The majority of these cars in the Chicago area are AWD so I don't think I can get the Rays. But I like the sport wheels and they are equipped with the same akebonos as the Z. I've also read that the 2014 had many issue with the infotainment system which was drastically improved in 2015 with revised hardware and software. I'm wondering if the 2016 will be even better. The dynamic suspension and DAS tweaks seem nice as well.

At this point I think I'm just going to wait and see the 2016. I don't want buyers remorse and am not in a rush to consolidate cars either. If it's quirky I may just wait it out or snatch up a pre-owned 2015 or GS350 instead. I change my mind on this topic about twice a day

RicerX

Don't know the answer to that yet, but I'm working on getting to Z1 and having them look the car over. I just haven't had the time to take a road trip, and I just wrote a fat check for my damn income taxes, so my spending is on hold until I finish drinking that off.

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Cheap gas, lax EPA regulations, and cheaper R&D and production costs. Yay late 90s!

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Slartibartfas

300ZX-TTs sure were smoky beasts after a few miles.

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bigaudiofanat

Hello all, just wanted to chime in. I'll be getting a Q50 in the fallowing month or so. Pretty excited for the step up. Looking to do a fast intentions exhaust, stillen intakes, and full audio upgrade. Looking to do a 2014 AWD version simply because of work.

I do have a question to Q50 owners. If your heated seats are in AUTO, does that mean when you start the car they come on? Trying to plan out my remote start for it.

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RicerX

Don't buy a 2014. You will hate life because of InTouch. Get a 2015. All of the hardware behind the infortainment was upgrade - memory and processors. The 14s are cheap as piss solely because of that. Unless you know something about swapping out that entire center stack you'll find yourself two miles down the road after startup still waiting on apps to load.

If the seats are in auto, the preferences are paired to whichever key you programmed whichever slot for. I.E. key 1 was used to set preferences for setting 1 and key 2 was used to set number 2, whichever key starts the car automatically chooses its preferred setting.

Good luck! The Q50 is an extremely underrated car. You will enjoy it.

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bigaudiofanat

Thanks for that info, actually I'll be upgrading the intouch with the android interface which bypasses all the bootup wait time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX6RrhB0sOw

Thanks for the info on the seats as well. So I believe what you're saying is. With the auto enabled the seats will not turn on until I get in the car with the fob? Remote start will just get the car running.

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