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brancky3 03-24-2015 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 3147583)
$60,000 is not a lot of money for a brand new, hipo car that pushes at least 400 hp.

It is when you can get a 5.0 Mustang with 435 hp for $32k....

ZKraken22 03-24-2015 01:19 PM

the Max this Z could sale at is 45K and like someone already mentioned add in options most likely will add 10K. That's almost C7 Vette, Hellcat, M4 territory. Tell me Nissan is smarter then that, this car better be amazing to justiy 60K because Pre owned GT-R's will be less then 53K by the time this z comes out.

BC416 03-24-2015 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3147606)
It is when you can get a 5.0 Mustang with 435 hp for $32k....

The Mustang could come with 600hp and I still think there are plenty of people who would choose the Z over it. Sure as hell not at $60k but a lot more than HP goes into a car purchase for most.

TerribleONE 03-24-2015 01:28 PM

While I completely agree that 60k is a bit steep, some of the comparisons in here are hilarious.

I wanna come to your neck of the woods if you can buy a used Z34+mods and still have money for a down payment on a house, or find a used GT-R that hasn't been beat to sh!t for under 60k

brancky3 03-24-2015 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3147641)
The Mustang could come with 600hp and I still think there are plenty of people who would choose the Z over it. Sure as hell not at $60k but a lot more than HP goes into a car purchase for most.

I agree, but the post that I quoted said $60k for 400hp was not a lot - no other factors were mentioned.

6MT-Z34 03-24-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3147644)
While I completely agree that 60k is a bit steep, some of the comparisons in here are hilarious.

I wanna come to your neck of the woods if you can buy a used Z34+mods and still have money for a down payment on a house, or find a used GT-R that hasn't been beat to sh!t for under 60k

:iagree:

ZKraken22 03-24-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3147644)
While I completely agree that 60k is a bit steep, some of the comparisons in here are hilarious.

I wanna come to your neck of the woods if you can buy a used Z34+mods and still have money for a down payment on a house, or find a used GT-R that hasn't been beat to sh!t for under 60k

Not EVERY use GT-R is or will be beat to ****.

6MT-Z34 03-24-2015 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 3147671)
Not EVERY use GT-R is or will be beat the ****.

most leases will though...

BC416 03-24-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3147667)
I agree, but the post that I quoted said $60k for 400hp was not a lot - no other factors were mentioned.

All good. I cross-shopped both cars before I got the Z so I took it a little personal. A lot of posters on here think that car is the answer to everything. :rofl2:

That being said I think $60k defeats the purpose of an affordable sports car that the Z stands for. Maybe I could see it if they go with the rumoured 2 engine choices and you max out the more expensive one with all the bells and whistles. Still doesn't make much sense to me though.

brancky3 03-24-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3147676)
All good. I cross-shopped both cars before I got the Z so I took it a little personal. A lot of posters on here think that car is the answer to everything. :rofl2:

That being said I think $60k defeats the purpose of an affordable sports car that the Z stands for. Maybe I could see it if they go with the rumoured 2 engine choices and you max out the more expensive one with all the bells and whistles. Still doesn't make much sense to me though.

It's compared a lot because it's close competition, close in price and 100 more hp but in a Mustang :tup:

I would never spend $60k on a Z, no matter how many bells and whistles it has. I'd rather take a Cayman S ($64k) with zero options than a loaded Z at $60k.

BC416 03-24-2015 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3147690)
It's compared a lot because it's close competition, close in price and 100 more hp but in a Mustang :tup:

I would never spend $60k on a Z, no matter how many bells and whistles it has. I'd rather take a Cayman S ($64k) with zero options than a loaded Z at $60k.

The bolded part is why I chose the Z. :rofl2:

I'd never purchase a brand new vehicle anyway. Don't see the point in driving off the lot and losing a couple grand in a matter of minutes. Used all day.

MagmaRed370z 03-24-2015 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kidkotic2001 (Post 3147135)
Not a chance, might as well just save up a little more and get a Corvette, Porsche, or anything a top of the line Z28


That's true. Like a 2015 Cayman S starting at 64k.

shika805 03-24-2015 02:10 PM

4 banger Z??? ridiculous... like i said before, retire the Z for 10 years and leave it a 6 cylinder which should be the only power plant. Revive the 240SX and make a hell of different versions, hybrid 4 banger, turbo and economy car. Reality is, people want a "Sporty Car" not a "Sports Car."

Nissan retired the Z after the 300ZX, why not now. Then come back with bang later on.

brancky3 03-24-2015 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shika805 (Post 3147716)
4 banger Z??? ridiculous... like i said before, retire the Z for 10 years and leave it a 6 cylinder which should be the only power plant. Revive the 240SX and make a hell of different versions, hybrid 4 banger, turbo and economy car. Reality is, people want a "Sporty Car" not a "Sports Car."

Nissan retired the Z after the 300ZX, why not now. Then come back with bang later on.

I could see a 240SX with a turbo 4cyl being popular if priced below the FRS/BRZ.

MagmaRed370z 03-24-2015 02:17 PM

I think that Nissan doesn't want to make a super jump in HP as they do not want to be intrusive with GTR territory hurting GTR sales. At least give it more juice to be faster/cooler/better car than the current 5.0 Mustang.

TerribleONE 03-24-2015 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 3147671)
Not EVERY use GT-R is or will be beat to ****.

I agree, but for 55k id be willing to bet it is. :twocents:

ZKraken22 03-24-2015 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3147757)
I agree, but for 55k id be willing to bet it is. :twocents:

Or maybe because by 2017 it's a 8 year old car (depreciation). I'll take a 55k GT-R with miles below 35k. I don't baby my Z but i assure you its in great condition all around. let's not just throw blasphemy around and say "every" low priced GT-R has been treated with abuse. Plus extended warranties are offered even on used cars.

ZKraken22 03-24-2015 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3147690)
It's compared a lot because it's close competition, close in price and 100 more hp but in a Mustang :tup:

I would never spend $60k on a Z, no matter how many bells and whistles it has. I'd rather take a Cayman S ($64k) with zero options than a loaded Z at $60k.

If Nissan did what the Americans do (GT500,ZL1,Hellcat) id buy a 60K Z. Call it a Nismo RS with 600 HP, Warranty, yup sign me up.

3Aims 03-24-2015 03:12 PM

Geez. Paid $28k for a 2015 base and my reasoning was that it was an exceptional value and fun to drive. $60k? I'd get a vette for less.

RicerX 03-24-2015 03:14 PM

Oh gee... another dumb ******* report about the "next Z".

I'd repeat myself from the last three threads about this, but I'm busy.

Vichtz 03-24-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3147644)
While I completely agree that 60k is a bit steep, some of the comparisons in here are hilarious.

I wanna come to your neck of the woods if you can buy a used Z34+mods and still have money for a down payment on a house, or find a used GT-R that hasn't been beat to sh!t for under 60k

Here it is lined up.

Car

Low mileage touring model - 20,494
Cars for Sale: 2010 Nissan 370Z Touring Coupe in San Antonio, TX 78212: Coupe Details - 391859751 - Autotrader

Body Work (fly1motorsports.com)

Fly 1 vented fenders frp - 700
AMS Rear Bumper frp - 600
Fuji Rep Front bumper FRP - 700
2 pairs of rear amuse canards - 180
Ill be generous and say bodywork - 3000

Wheels (getyourwheels.com)

Forgestar f14 19x9.5/19x11 - 1650
Nitto Invo 245/40/19 + 285/35/19 - 1180

Forced induction (fastintentions.com)

Fast intentions complete kit - 9995
Oil Cooler - 500
Uprev Tuner and license and turnkey tune - 600

So after all of that your total is - 39,599
Leaving you - 20,401

Meaning if you could finance a house worth 100,000 if you put average 20% down. With a credit score 660+ you can possibly get an even lower percentage. this is all with an average interest rate too.

Thats a nice house with a garage to house your gtr slayer. All for the price of 1 car? No thanks z35...

TerribleONE 03-24-2015 03:48 PM

You forgot about install labor on the TT kit, and various other supporting mods which you will need.

Also, you cant even get a shack in CA for 100K but obviously we are on the high end of living cost.

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Originally Posted by Vichtz (Post 3147849)
Here it is lined up.

Car

Low mileage touring model - 20,494
Cars for Sale: 2010 Nissan 370Z Touring Coupe in San Antonio, TX 78212: Coupe Details - 391859751 - Autotrader

Body Work (fly1motorsports.com)

Fly 1 vented fenders frp - 700
AMS Rear Bumper frp - 600
Fuji Rep Front bumper FRP - 700
2 pairs of rear amuse canards - 180
Ill be generous and say bodywork - 3000

Wheels (getyourwheels.com)

Forgestar f14 19x9.5/19x11 - 1650
Nitto Invo 245/40/19 + 285/35/19 - 1180

Forced induction (fastintentions.com)

Fast intentions complete kit - 9995
Oil Cooler - 500
Uprev Tuner and license and turnkey tune - 600

So after all of that your total is - 39,599
Leaving you - 20,401

Meaning if you could finance a house worth 100,000 if you put average 20% down. With a credit score 660+ you can possibly get an even lower percentage. this is all with an average interest rate too.

Thats a nice house with a garage to house your gtr slayer. All for the price of 1 car? No thanks z35...


ej z34 03-24-2015 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3146526)
Oh I dunno, plenty of people are willing to pay $110k for a Nissan that looks like a $15k Cobalt on the outside.:stirthepot:

lmao what. someone actually paid MSRP on a GTR. I know 3 people who all have bought brand new GTR's in the past 2 years and haven't paid more then 90K OTD.....

kenchan 03-24-2015 04:43 PM

this thread took a USPS...


/thread

Vichtz 03-24-2015 05:43 PM

Haha yea I guess I should have specified DIY install. And area you live too. But in my defense you did say "my neck of the woods"

FairladyZ10PG 03-24-2015 06:19 PM

forget the z35

I'm saving up for the new supra lol

victort 03-24-2015 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3147641)
The Mustang could come with 600hp and I still think there are plenty of people who would choose the Z over it. Sure as hell not at $60k but a lot more than HP goes into a car purchase for most.

i disagree with that. the new 5.0 has been out less than a year and i've already seen more 5.0 around than 370z in 6 years. that's saying something.

nismo13807 03-24-2015 11:15 PM

60 k... wow.. ill just save 10 k and turbo my current z.. 3.7 T or 3.7 TT =)

UNKNOWN_370 03-24-2015 11:54 PM

Rumor trash

Davey 03-25-2015 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by victort (Post 3148076)
i disagree with that. the new 5.0 has been out less than a year and i've already seen more 5.0 around than 370z in 6 years. that's saying something.

I don't. The Z is definitely not your best bet for the fastest thing you can buy for the money and hasn't been for quite some time. What it provides though, is an experience you won't find in anything else available, and if that's what you like then the Z is what you're getting, because that's all there is.

If they could make a Mustang that drove like a sports coupe should I would buy one in an instant, but so far I have not been impressed with any of the ones I drove vs. the Z - and I'm well aware that both of them would put down better lap times than my NISMO on most tracks. They just were not exciting to drive in the slightest outside of the first couple of rushes from the V8's power.

b15 03-25-2015 06:49 AM

I wouldn't mind a $60k Z if it was a complete package deal (looks, handling, power, interior).

370zseth 03-25-2015 07:14 AM

If I had won the lottery, yes I would. Right now? No, 2017? No I want to be able to retire one day soon and 60k on a car isnt it, if Im spending that much, I look at Porsche or pony up for a GTR.

BC416 03-25-2015 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by victort (Post 3148076)
i disagree with that. the new 5.0 has been out less than a year and i've already seen more 5.0 around than 370z in 6 years. that's saying something.

That's part of why I chose the Z. I can't go 5 minutes driving without seeing a Mustang. Great performance but that's about it IMO.

MagmaRed370z 03-25-2015 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3148565)
That's part of why I chose the Z. I can't go 5 minutes driving without seeing a Mustang. Great performance but that's about it IMO.

I called them Rustangs. :roflpuke2:

brancky3 03-25-2015 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3148570)
I called them Rustangs. :roflpuke2:

Mustake :tup:

MagmaRed370z 03-25-2015 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3148585)
Mustake :tup:

:bowrofl:

MagmaRed370z 03-25-2015 08:49 AM

What is the most recent article? I found this one February 6, 2015.
2016 Nissan Z35 Price - 2016 / 2017 Nissan Cars

says that the car will weigh in at 1,300 pounds? Who writes this stuff?

Duc_Z09 03-25-2015 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey (Post 3148366)
I don't. The Z is definitely not your best bet for the fastest thing you can buy for the money and hasn't been for quite some time. What it provides though, is an experience you won't find in anything else available, and if that's what you like then the Z is what you're getting, because that's all there is.

If they could make a Mustang that drove like a sports coupe should I would buy one in an instant, but so far I have not been impressed with any of the ones I drove vs. the Z - and I'm well aware that both of them would put down better lap times than my NISMO on most tracks. They just were not exciting to drive in the slightest outside of the first couple of rushes from the V8's power.

:iagree: I almost bought a 5.0... then I drove my NISMO. While noticeably slower, it feels like a much more sorted package than the Mustang, and WAY better than the Camaro SS that I also cross-shopped. Slower, yes. More fun, hell yeah! And still not anemic and cheap feeling like the Scibaru I tested first.

To be fair to the 5.0 though, it's not a sports coupe and never was; it's a powerful 2-door cookie cutter that you can turn into whatever you want. The aftermarket on those cars is 2nd to none so if you have money and like to mod, it's a great choice.:tup:

2011 Nismo#91 03-25-2015 08:53 AM

You guys spend a lot of time discussing what someone says "could" happen. I could be a multi millionaire by 2017 anyone want to discuss?

MagmaRed370z 03-25-2015 10:05 AM

60k for a Z? Nah I'll go GTR route instead. What keeps me from buying a GTR is that you can't do repeated launch controls (Without wondering if something happens) to the tranny and Nissan is not responsible for it! (At least that's what the GTR forum people say...)

I can (would) buy the next Z35 if in range (35-45k)


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