[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Originally Posted by OTW Z-Boy

I'll chime in... And if nissan is reading please take my top ten as a recipe for the Z35 id like to see for about 50k (60k seems a little too high for my pocket book for a non luxury car)
1. 400+ twin turbo v6
2. 2+2 configuration (let's get that kick back from our insurance shall we)
3. Interior upgrade from a materials stand point (even the nismo still feels like a sport IMO)
4. Tech package needs to be standard on the z35 (and lose the fake car noise thing... Seriously I have a PS4 for that)
5. Continue to offer base / sport / and Nismo models (point of difference between base and sport can be the power plant base: 4 single turbo / sport: 6 tt / nismo: 6tt with a tune less considerate to mpg
6. Clean up and define aero differences between nismo and non nismo models (they've gotten too close) and bring back the number plate
7. Upgrade suspension to include ability to adjust camber to +\- 3.0 degrees (because racecar)
8. Upgrade to slotted/drilled rotors on sport and nismo models
9. Paddle shifters on all models. AT/MT shouldn't matter
10. Last but not least put the damn thing into production already I'm over waiting!

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

In reality. When I think about it. I'm going to combine some rumors and some real concepts and create a scenario for you guys. I think all of us, including me have gotten caught up in numbers.

Fact. The Nissan Juke weighs 2866lbs with 5 doors.
Fact. The GripZ is a 3 door RWD VERSION of the Juke.
They are saying the GripZ is the next Z.

What if? It's just the chassis that's being used as the next Z chassis???

Remember, one of the first rumors about the z was it will be on a separate chassis from the infiniti FM platform.

If a Juke is 2866lbs? How much would a GripZ weigh without the back doors? Just looking at a 4 seat g37 coupe vs a 370z. It loses 400lbs. In the case of the grip Z vs a Juke... It would be 2866 minus let's say 300lbs. Then lower the routine to car height and we probably lose another 80 to 100lbs?

So a GripZ is probably 2,566 lbs.

A derived Z could be 2,450lbs with a 2.0t engine with 212hp off the same chassis???? Let's be pessimistic and say 2,550lbs.

That brings me to a car like the Alfa Romeo4c which weighs 2,300lbs, has a 2.0t with DCT, gets 238hp but gets to 60 in 4.5 seconds. It's top speed is 175mph.

At that weight, a 2.0 turbo Z would be competitive with v8 muscle at a third of the displacement like the 4c. Maybe not as fast though. Probably getting to 60 in 5 seconds and a top speed of 155mph.

Let's say, Nissan takes this same chassis and makes a second Z with the Mercedes 3.0 v6 turbo and keeps the same 332hp but this car weighs in at an even 2,700lbs.

A car of this weight would be a marvel and change the game.

The lightweight GripZ chassis is there.
The proven jatco 7at is there.
The Mercedes derived engines. There!
The know-how based off all there Juke experience to make a ultralight vehicle. There.

It's not far fetched fellas. In fact every aspect of the core of my analysis comes from facts. Not rumors.

Originally Posted by Rusty

Maybe we should change the title of the thread to" Wish List for the New Z."

My idea.

Use the Alfa Romeo 4C as an idea for base construction. The carbon fiber tub with bolt-on aluminum sub-frames, plastic/carbon fiber body panels. It still can be a front mid-engine sports car (think the lay-out like a small Viper ACR, but not the look). 3L V6, twin turbo, 400 or so hp. 6 speed sequential tranny. 6 piston front, 4 piston rear brakes. A true LSD. Computer nannies that you have full control over. Like Rain, Street, Race mode. Fully adjustable suspension. 100" wheelbase. 19" rims with 295's front, and 345's rear of sticky rubber. Think the weight could be under 2,800 lbs. Price, depends on how far you want to go with the light weight stuff, and the quality of the parts.

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

And then u woke up from your sleep lol

2 by 2...hands of blue

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

You're speaking in hypothetics. Your friend who is giving you info doesn't know what he's talking about because the only people who know the weight of the next Z are in the actual production lab. There's Been "NO INFO WHATSOEVER" and the most viable info we have is that the next Z will be a suped up Juke 3 door. The 5 door Juke is 2800lbs Soooooo? Even with the most ridiculous rumor in automotive history. The Z would probably be down 550lbs in weight. No one knows anything. So don't trust what you hear. It's as much speculation as this whole thread.

As far as no enthusiasts willing to pay? The only reason why people complain about the Z's power, in reality. It's cuz, our engines cost over $15,000 to properly add forced induction with a proper suspension tune to hold the power. If you own an auto. $23,000.

The Z still out handles all of the competition. The Z, if it remains at the same exact price? All they have to do is compete with the v6 Camaro, ecoboost Mustang and the challenger R/T.
The Z is soon to be no longer the fastest v6 on the market. Because we were stagnant and other vehicles progressed. They caught up to us.

We WILL NOT be able to compete with V8's without adding a premium to the price.

Mercedes gave infiniti, the turbo 4 for the Q50 and it will be an identical 208hp as in the C300.

Nissan may adopt the C400 engine which is a turbo 3.0 cranking 328hp. Maybe the Z will continue to only push 332hp. But if it has a turbo engine? Expect a $3,000 premium on that alone. If the in-house tune it and it's 400hp off the rip to compete with v8's? Expect it to cost in the range of v'8's just like the 09 z34. The Mustang was 30,000 back then. So was the Z. So look at a Mustang GT base price. And I give you the price of a 380-400hp Z.

People will pay cuz the Z driving experience is incomparable to other cars in the range. Muscle are all inherently similar. Just each model is better at one particular thing over the other..