Yep

You're on drugs. The Miata is NOT fast. Yes, it is lighter, but it also has 200hp less and a **** ton of torque less than the Z.

900 lbs lighter =/= 200hp loss

Justify all you want, at the end of the day, there is no Z and so apparently I'm a lot more correct than you are. By the way, I wouldn't sit in another evo if you paid me to. Worst interior I've ever seen. Once again, cost cutting to make a car sell... Until it stopped selling and was killed.

You're now comparing the Z to an M4? :icon18::icon18::icon18::icon18:

The M4 is based on a plebe mobile, aka a normal 4 series which BMW sells plenty of. BMW took a normal car and built the **** out of it to get the M4. The M4 is not a stand alone vehicle like the Z.

Nissan does not have the same, unless you count the Infiniti coupe as being the plebe version. What's Nissans plebe vehicle that they sell thousands upon thousands of, to be able to offer a sport offering? Nothing? Hmmm.

The Z is a Z is a Z. Nissan does not sell enough of them for them to care. Go ahead, prove me wrong. I would love to see otherwise. If Nissan does sell enough, why are they pushing it in almost the 9th year of production? Why is there no replacement? "This car is so profitable for us, we should definitely NOT make a replacement!" C'mon...

This is happening with most Japanese companies. Toyota started it. They sold their soul sometime in the 90s to pursue extremely vanilla, boring, safe and otherwise numb cars, as that's exactly what the mass market wants. And Toyota sells TONS of cars more than Nissan/Honda/Mazda combined.

Honda is the same. Those losers are still adamant that FWD is the best and nothing else in the world should be created, besides a FWD biased AWD system. They lost all their sporty edge. The most they have is the Civic Si for the last decade, which simply just gets uglier every year and little more. Honda has finally promised us the Civic Type R, but not much is known about the North American version. Safe to say it is FWD again, and will likely cost as much as a Focus RS. No thanks.

Lexus and Acura are the same ****. No manual transmissions, soft as **** suspensions, numb steering and whatever else that makes us not want one. Lexus has been doing it since pretty much 2000.

The only thing Mazda has is the Miata, but it's not much of a sports car. Yeah it handles nicely, but it is slow as ****. It's essentially a "sports" car geared towards middle aged men that are more concerned about comfort than anything else. After owning one, I refuse to get into another. The daily ridicule isn't worth it either. From EVERYONE.

Face it. We are a dying segment. Even if there is 1,000,000 of us in North America, it simply isn't enough. Why? Well, out of that number, how many buy a new sports car every year?

I agree with you 100%, but why is Nissan still making the 370z? If they say there's no money in this car why still produce it? Why not just cut it off and let it fade into distant memory? I for one was extremely interested in the thought of a new z35 coming out. If it was what everyone hoped it was I was going to buy one. And turn my 370z into a track car due to the face I just finished paying mine off. I guess time till tell where the auto industry goes from here, but it's not looking good for us on this forum who enjoy a pure drivers car.

... are you watching me or something?!:eekdance:

All I can guess is that Nissan is milking every last dollar out of that platform. That to me already showcases their initial expectations for how this car would sell were out to lunch. And I'm guessing they never recovered.

Believe me, I too am sad about it.

What makes me even more sad is that it seems youth these days have zero interest in cars. Or at least not that many do anymore. Back in the day, man, you'd see hot imports all over town. Some nice, some pieces of ****, but still, you could see enthusiasts of all ages. What was nice is that the younger youth- the ones who couldn't afford nicer cars when they were young, were buying them when they could finally afford them.

But that stopped somewhere. Or rather, is slowing down big time. And it seems that love is being lost, and we are being punished since brands want to continue making big money and as such, cater to these groups. And these groups are huge. And they don't give a damn about cars.

Mmmmmmmmaybe.





You gonna share those drugs? :happydance:

Well the sports coupe market is hot right now so not sure who's buying these types of cars but someone is. To me the argument about a Z not selling is just not valid. It's not selling because there are other competitors listening to their target demographic and giving them what they want.

Ford just released details on the 2018 Mustang, and it will have a 10speed auto option, magnetic ride, dual mode exhaust, more power, twin disc clutch, a digital dash, and a whole heap of other improvements. That's an example of competing and staying with the times.

Yes they did but still no number on power... so whose all going to jump onto the Ford bandwagon lol I know I'm no...

They can do whatever they want to the Mustang but it won't change the fact it's a Ford.

Exactly... But at least FORD is doing the R&D for there vehicle... Unlike NISSAN..

No argument there. I owned an IS before I bought the G. I know all about falling behind the competition.

Saying things like it's still a Ford is ignorant. What exactly does that mean anyway?

I don't want a Mustang. Cool package but too large for my tastes. The point is that they are continually developing and evolving their car, listening to their target audience along the way. That keeps excitement up and improves the product. It also keeps them competitive.

Nissan isn't selling Z's not because people just don't buy Z's. It's because they are neglecting it.

Cars in general are of less interest of the younger folks. I know several family members kids that even delayed drivers licenses till 18+ and I am not in an area where public transportation is viable.

That's because the majority of today's kids are fags.

Not gay. just fags.

It's very sad actually.

Agreed, they are either tripping over their murse they are carrying or the pants around their ankles. Both lead in the same general direction toward full on pussication.

I have family and friends question why I got a car instead of a condo.

1) if I struggle with a 30k purchase what makes you think I can handle 300k?

2) I'm young once. I want to drive a youngins car like youngins does not be sitting in a condo eating Mac n cheese.

3) why the **** wouldn't you want a sports car? Especially with such a unique history and heritage

4) the z crowd is mint. Meeting people in real life off the forum and even just randomly at meets.

Exactly!! Like at ZDAYZ!!

If you don't know what it means, then you would be the ignorant one. Master the English dictionary first buddy.

See Chuck.... It's posts like this one that turns me up then I verbally slice Foolz up on the forum. It's not about me being right.... it's about dudes like this coming out his *** based on a different opinion.

This right here and elite fanboyism are my forum peeves.


If you wanna be a douche, there's always your own G37 forum. Smh

I have met a lot of the big faces you see here. I probably met some that I didn't know we're here last year. Still salty I didn't get longest drive since I did it without a caravan from Toronto lol.

You get experiences that are just heart warming. And then you become the only NA builds with the forged performance/ FI crew at zdayz and you just want to punch them in the face for making you consider a financially irresponsible modification :bowrofl:

Jk this community is amazing. I went to a regular car meet after and call me snub but they were meh. Sure had a few cool guys that were into cars but it wasn't the same. Plus everyone overstated their cars potential. I giggled.

Then there was Zcon in toronto where mad Mike remember me. Probably cause I was the only asian there ahhahahhahaahha.

This is why they need to continue the z legacy. It has a cult. Yea an elitist cult following that has deep roots.

Hell we've probly met then.. i was there last year and will be again this year.. see you there!!

R&T posted a great article on our cars and I totally agree with everything said. It's that car that many people aren't paying attention to but deserves more credit. But it also deserves for Nissan to pay it more attention. I'm not even worried about the body changing as much as the interior updating and at minimum, putting that red sport engine in the Nismo. It deserves the attention....

The Nissan 370Z Is a Classic-Car Bargain Masquerading as a Current Production Model

God that kinda hit me in the feels bro.. but it's so true good find!

Good find! Its really similar to what I feel like the 370z will go down as once its gone. I had the S2k back in 2008 when it was still in production and it got alot of the slack that the 370z gets right now(old compared to the competition) but when it went out of production it only took a couple years for people to start appreciating what it really was.. a great car.

Lol, little bro...you get all my left overs when I upgrade and I get good Canadian beer! :p

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Great article and exactly how I feel about the current car. It's awesome and will be missed when it's gone.

Still hoping for a new one though.

:iagree:

Old thread, but personally I'm hoping for the powertrain from the Q50 Red Sport 400 maybe even in a rear wheel drive format. It's GTR motor family 3.0l TT AWD 400 hp

:ugh2::ugh2::ugh2:

:supergay::supergay::supergay:

As a new Z owner (still waiting for my Z to be shipped from the factory)...

I fully agree with the previous statements in regards to dying car enthusiasts amongst the younger generations. I was born in 87. When i was in high school and throughout my twenties all my peers were all about their cars and around town you would see nice cars or lower end cars with nicer modifications. We would all meet up in town parking lots and cruise the beach and stuff like that.

at 30 years old, I proudly ordered my 2017 NISMO Z knowing that I would stand out in the region of the states that I live. (From Boston)

You just don't see Z's up here.... and if you do.... it's extremely rare.

It's a dying breed... but I am happy to know I will own one and have it for many years to come.... (future garage queen Z)

i could rant on and on about this... but in a nutshell....

Long live the Z :tup:

Try going a bit more north.... all you see are the occasional 350Z. My 370Z definitely turns heads because there are very, very few around. It also has been called a 350Z on occasion, all the more reason to paint the door handles I guess. It also attracts the occasional idiots that try to "assert their dominance", but that comes with the territory.

Same story here.
(btw great year of birth ;))

There are many options on the market. More advanced cars, faster cars, even some more beautiful cars.

But the whole package of the Z is still pretty good. It is plenty fast to require you to (A) use the speed limiter or (B) keep a constant eye on the speed all the time.
In Switzerland speeding tickets ain't coming cheap.

The biggest reason for me was to have something almost unique. M2s and new Mustangs are everywhere. Don't start with STIs or Golf Rs.

And I am finally thankful to have a NA engine, no annoying park distance control or other electronic nannies telling me how to drive.

The 370Z is the final, last, still available analog driving machine on the market.

My dealer btw is expecting to have sold one of the last Zs ever. No more to come.

Though on the higher end.... Mercedes went out of their way to put a hydraulic steering unit in the AMG GT series though they succumbed to the electric handbrake.... booo!!!

So it's the Z and the AMG GT. At least the mustang and M2 offer handbrake but they have artificial steering.

When it comes to pure sports cars. Car companies need to do it for the love, not the profit. They have to change their philosophy. They can't build computer on wheels tech cars. Let them build those over 100k n sell them to rich posers. Keep the formulas basic, mechanical and driver centric. Let modern expression be in the external and internal sculpting.... That's it!!

Car companies will have 12 to 15 bread and butter models and two sports cars. If you have sports cars. Do it for the love!!!

Nissan Z Coming According to C&D!!
 

Car and Driver's blog talks about the next Z coming in 2019? I wouldn't put too much stock in the renderings but the powerplants sound like they are right on point with what we all anticipated (More or less).


Nissan Z Concept Coming; Production Car Could Reach 500 Horsepower