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Dreadnaught 12-15-2015 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 3368820)
Those intercoolers just look weird haha

They look exactly like the intercoolers here at Mercedes. I haven't seen any isues with our air to water intercoolers here yet so they seem to be alright.

I also hope the turbos aren't welded to the exhaust manifolds. Ugh.

b15 12-15-2015 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught (Post 3368854)
They look exactly like the intercoolers here at Mercedes. I haven't seen any isues with our air to water intercoolers here yet so they seem to be alright.

I also hope the turbos aren't welded to the exhaust manifolds. Ugh.

The M4 also uses air to water. Im sure itll be fine for the majority. Will be interesting to see at what point these become a hindrance to power.

brucelidat 12-15-2015 11:51 PM

Hopefully, this is super tuneable for big gains. Will definately fo test drive one even though I am waiting for the coupe or next Z.

brucelidat 12-15-2015 11:55 PM

350 trq is kind of low....

NRTim 12-16-2015 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 3368813)
as obsessed as nissan is with platform/engine sharing for cost considerations I cant see it not being the Z engine

It's a strong possibility, I also can see the base model Z having the 300hp tune while the Nismo version gets 400hp etc.

sunkist350z 12-16-2015 12:16 AM

Possible the new z will get the same engine as the q60, hopefully 420+hp.

2016 Infiniti Q50 Launches With New 400 hp, Twin-Turbo V6

brucelidat 12-16-2015 12:50 AM

stock m4 puts down around 380 whp/trq. Hopefully this can be easily tuned to at least the stock m4 numbers.

sunkist350z 12-16-2015 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3368938)
stock m4 puts down around 380 whp/trq. Hopefully this can be easily tuned to at least the stock m4 numbers.

Who cares about the the m4 cant stand bmws...so ugly to me, I just hope the next z will be 400+hp.

UNKNOWN_370 12-16-2015 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught (Post 3368854)
They look exactly like the intercoolers here at Mercedes. I haven't seen any isues with our air to water intercoolers here yet so they seem to be alright.

I also hope the turbos aren't welded to the exhaust manifolds. Ugh.


Yup, basically t his is a NISSANIZED Benz engine.

UNKNOWN_370 12-16-2015 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3368926)
350 trq is kind of low....

350lb tq is enough for hard low end push.... If 350lb tq kicks in at 1500rpm? Believe you, me. In a 3,000lb Z car, you won't be saying its low. Especially if 400HP is felt in the mid to high rev range. This car will be a beast.

njobe89 12-16-2015 07:02 AM

with a simple tune those tq numbers would go up. 400/350 is good and basic bolt ons should make that power go way higher. i'd be more than satisfied with those numbers.

njobe89 12-16-2015 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3315113)
So some good news. I got confirmation that more than likely the next Z will be a 3.0TT.

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 3315462)
I will send you a ******* keg is this comes true

and i want my damn keg now!!! lol

MagmaRed370z 12-16-2015 07:15 AM

If they already have the 3.0 TT V6 from the 2016 Q50, then it is a huge possibility that they can use the same engine in the Z35.

/Angelo350Z/ 12-16-2015 07:42 AM

I have no doubt that Nissan will use the same engine on the Z35 but with a slightly higher power output. I seriously hope the design and shape look more similar to the Z32 than the Z33 or Z34.

FPenvy 12-16-2015 07:52 AM

im wondering if the change to integrated manifolds into the block and new very close cat setup is to deter people from removing them.

that aside new engine looks sexy :yum:

the tq band being 350 tq from 1600-5900rpm is pretty impressive.

Firebase99 12-16-2015 07:53 AM

Id like to see 350TQ @ wheel....stock.

GraphiteZ 12-16-2015 08:40 AM

The new engines are nice, but I am not sure they will offer a manual transmission option at least for the Z.

b15 12-16-2015 08:42 AM

The Q60 coupe supposedly retains a 6MT. The Q50 will be 7AT only.

FPenvy 12-16-2015 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 3369101)
The Q60 coupe supposedly retains a 6MT. The Q50 will be 7AT only.

makes sense since the Q60 is the coupe more sporty version.

I kinda dig it body wise. engine i'm sold on though.

b15 12-16-2015 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3368978)
Yup, basically t his is a NISSANIZED Benz engine.

Umm what?

This is a VR engine. Last I checked that was Nissan's design. Lots of turbo cars use air to water cooler, does that make them all Benz engines? :ugh:

b15 12-16-2015 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3369102)
makes sense since the Q60 is the coupe more sporty version.

I kinda dig it body wise. engine i'm sold on though.

I really like the Q50, sans the direct adaptive steering. I wouldn't mind consolidating cars and only having a Q50. But knowing I have a TT engine under the hood, it'd probably become family unfriendly within months of ownership :D

FPenvy 12-16-2015 08:49 AM

well the 2.0 is a merc engine I thought? lol

FPenvy 12-16-2015 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 3369107)
I really like the Q50, sans the direct adaptive steering. I wouldn't mind consolidating cars and only having a Q50. But knowing I have a TT engine under the hood, it'd probably become family unfriendly within months of ownership :D

yea I would wait for someone to do some mods to make sure it wont go boom if you add just a little power butttttttt I mean breather mods instantly will unlock some power in a turbo setup.

what im curious about as stated before is the integrated manifolds and the cats listed as being tucked up high to the block (no pics to show location yet).

b15 12-16-2015 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3369108)
well the 2.0 is a merc engine I thought? lol

True, I thought we were discussing the VR 3.0 TT though. Whatevs!

Knowing Nissan though, in 5 years I bet every single infiniti will have this engine. Wonder if they'll make a transverse version as well or stick with the VQ for Nissan applications

b15 12-16-2015 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3369109)
yea I would wait for someone to do some mods to make sure it wont go boom if you add just a little power butttttttt I mean breather mods instantly will unlock some power in a turbo setup.

what im curious about as stated before is the integrated manifolds and the cats listed as being tucked up high to the block (no pics to show location yet).

For sure. I won't even consider this engine until the 2nd or 3rd year. I don't like to be a guinea pig haha.

This kind of gives you an idea:

http://www.blogcdn.com/slideshows/im...0-q50-22-1.jpg

FPenvy 12-16-2015 08:58 AM

oh I know I have been analyzing those pics. manifolds look odd but cool lol the way the new cats were described seems like they're tucking them up tight as possible to quicker engine warm up times but I feel that may just be dumb throwing more heat closer to the block. idk im not an engineer lol

some nice downpipes will hopefully knock the cats right out of there :yum:

carlitos_370z 12-16-2015 09:31 AM

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b15 12-16-2015 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3369118)
oh I know I have been analyzing those pics. manifolds look odd but cool lol the way the new cats were described seems like they're tucking them up tight as possible to quicker engine warm up times but I feel that may just be dumb throwing more heat closer to the block. idk im not an engineer lol

some nice downpipes will hopefully knock the cats right out of there :yum:

Yeah I think this is solely for emissions. Honda has been using the integrated manifold on their J-series v6s for years, which brings the precat up closer so everything heats up faster. Counter productive for power applications I'd imagine.

FPenvy 12-16-2015 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 3369161)
Yeah I think this is solely for emissions. Honda has been using the integrated manifold on their J-series v6s for years, which brings the precat up closer so everything heats up faster. Counter productive for power applications I'd imagine.

keep oem mani's but straight pipe it would be my plan of attack. also would wrap the DP's they end up being all tucked and whatnot. keep some of that heat out of the footwell on the inside lol

TerribleONE 12-16-2015 09:37 AM

Look at all of you guy's getting excited when a Z35 hasn't even been confirmed.

So cute

RicerX 12-16-2015 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3369056)
im wondering if the change to integrated manifolds into the block and new very close cat setup is to deter people from removing them.

that aside new engine looks sexy :yum:

the tq band being 350 tq from 1600-5900rpm is pretty impressive.

I think that is a byproduct benefit (deterring people from removing them) - the emissions benefit is likely the primary motive for the move from an engineering standpoint - the cats warm up almost instantaneously, which heavily benefits cold-start emissions (some of the worst in the scope of emissions).

That torque band would be dreamy on the current Z34, much less a revised and more efficient Z35 platform.

There's no way they can't make the Z35 perform right in the pack of the new GM Alpha-platformed cars, the new Mustang GT, or the current Caymans with the potential of this motor.

FPenvy 12-16-2015 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3369166)
Look at all of you guy's getting excited when a Z35 hasn't even been confirmed.

So cute

I already know your plan :gtfo2:

:bowrofl:

FPenvy 12-16-2015 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3369167)
I think that is a byproduct benefit (deterring people from removing them) - the emissions benefit is likely the primary motive for the move from an engineering standpoint - the cats warm up almost instantaneously, which heavily benefits cold-start emissions (some of the worst in the scope of emissions).

That torque band would be dreamy on the current Z34, much less a revised and more efficient Z35 platform.

There's no way they can't make the Z35 perform right in the pack of the new GM Alpha-platformed cars, the new Mustang GT, or the current Caymans with the potential of this motor.

the cats will be one of the first things to go for me lol :bowrofl:

I mean with this engine it's possible to be right with those cars I mean hell a v6 400hp depending on weight might go after the Camaro SS lol

TerribleONE 12-16-2015 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3369172)
I already know your plan :gtfo2:

:bowrofl:

In all seriousness I hope they bring this to the Z platform even though I doubt I would make the switch. Next car for me will be a new DD and I was thinking of getting a BMW but may consider a Q50 if this thing performs.

FPenvy 12-16-2015 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3369175)
In all seriousness I hope they bring this to the Z platform even though I doubt I would make the switch. Next car for me will be a new DD and I was thinking of getting a BMW but may consider a Q50 if this thing performs.

yea idk what I want honestly. I mean if the money is right it's a gTR without question but if not I really hope theres a new Z with this boosted engine. could hold some promise and hold me over until the GTR comes home lol

Magic Bus 12-16-2015 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 3369101)
The Q60 coupe supposedly retains a 6MT. The Q50 will be 7AT only.

I hope you're right, Q60 400hp is most likely in the cards for me if 6mt.

kay.zee 12-16-2015 07:37 PM

Nissan has said they want the z to go more fuel efficient and lightweight . That usually means a turbo 4 cylinder... There is no new z confirmed the Infiniti is pretty low in reliability and resale value. They do have great lease deals though

EzDz 12-16-2015 07:50 PM

The Z will get the motor its just a matter of when they wan't to drop the new z35 and they will also have to make a nismo version :eekdance:

NRTim 12-16-2015 08:18 PM

So who all is going to the Detroit Auto Show next month to bug the Nissan reps for some Z info?

brucelidat 12-16-2015 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kay.zee (Post 3369683)
Nissan has said they want the z to go more fuel efficient and lightweight . That usually means a turbo 4 cylinder... There is no new z confirmed the Infiniti is pretty low in reliability and resale value. They do have great lease deals though

Are Infinitis not reliable? I expect them to be about as reliable as Nissans for obvious reasons.


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