[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

takemorepills

Camrys don't sound so bad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edmJHtJtVa8

Have you ever looked around YT for Q60 exhaust vids? Not only does the VR sound good uncorked, but you'd be surprised at the WHP/WTQ gains just a CBE can gain on these VR cars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edmJHtJtVa8

I have the Infiniti Sports exhaust on my VQ37 Q60, and yes it sounds amazing, but the Camry and Q60 both sound good with aftermarket exhaust.

With the gains that exhaust will be making on VRs I am quite certain most enthusiast owners will be motivated to modify their exhaust.

And IMO the VR has better "in front of the firewall" sounds than the VQ, the VQ37 is a bit thrashy and I'm not the only one who thinks that.

triso07

You spoke a lot about sound in that thread. I think it's clear the sound will be average at best unless aftermarket exhaust is used.

What about the other questions in terms of the feel of the motor?

FPenvy

if i get one, i am already purchasing an FI exhaust for it.

they already have been selling for the Q60 and i assume it wont take much to adjust the bends to fit the new Z especially if it's really a 370 chassis.

i'm thinking 3"-3.5" straight pipe would get the job done.

twin turbo no need for mufflers.

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viiv

First of all I want to put out a disclaimer that I don't really think its fair to compare aftermarket modded cars. I compare stock with stock; apples with apples. I'm sure you could throw a million dollars into a Chevy Cruze and make it sound like a fighter jet but it's irrelevant.

So with the 2020 Q60, it's not linear like the 370Z. It's faster, but doesn't feel faster. I know a couple people on here say the VQ sounds thrashy, but thats what contributes to vibrations that are also a big thing in what makes a car 'feel' fast.

Listen, as a motorcyclist I find too many car people are hung up on specs instead of raw feelings and emotion, and I guess as a motorcyclist I find the thrashy engine appealing.

I'm going to try to make the difference between my stock 2020 Z and a stock Q60 as clear as mud. After test driving the Q60, which included several hard acceleration pulls; my wife told me the Q60 didn't do anything for her emotionally at all. The gunmetal 2019 370Z demo we test drove on the other hand, when I did hard acceleration pulls, got her p**** wet. This played a big factor in placing a factory order on a 2020 Passion Red.

1/4atatime

Everyone is focused on how good the motor is I could care less about that it's been in the q60/q50 for a while.now. I can drop one in my 370z right now if I wanted. I want to know how the new Z will handle. I test drove a q60 right after test driving a Z and I could never see myself in that car. That car feels like I'm driving a blob with wheels and a turbo. It has absolutely no character or driver feedback. If they throw on that adaptive suspension crap and drive by wire I'll never trade my 370z in. I would honestly rather drive a nisan versa than that car. At least when I'm taking a corner it will give me some driver feedback. I actually felt unsafe in the q60 I couldn't feel a hardly anything the car was doing. I'm pretty sure I would have taken a corner way too hard in it without knowing and ended up in a ditch somewhere.

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FPenvy

well you're in luck, the new Z was built on the same chassis of the 370 lol

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1/4atatime

The chassis isn't really what I'm wondering about it's the electronic suspension crap on the q60 that's what I don't want. You can make the best chassis in the world but if you have drive by wire or DDS suspension it's going to be boring to drive. Especially if it has drive by wire you can't mod that away.

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triso07

Nissan doesn't have much money and it's pretty clear the Z proto is a reworked 370z so I doubt there's much for you to worry about in this regard.

Andaesthetics

This 100%. Something to note is that not only is the Z Proto a prototype, but it is a working, running, driving car. I'll link video below of the Z Proto starting up, running, driving a bit, and revving.

Based on up-close video reviews of Z Proto, the new Z appears to consist of more 370Z parts than new parts (this has been verified). The wheel base is the same (this has been verified). The underside of the car, exhaust, suspension, etc. are pretty much exactly the same as the 370Z (this has been verified). The only new changes coming to the Z, besides the new exterior body shape, will obviously be the engine which will be the TTV6 (most likely VR30DDTT). It will also have the same exact oil cooler from the Q60 Red Sport (this has been verified). That along with the turbo speed sensors basically confirms it will use the Red Sport Engine. The transmission will more than likely be the 7-speed automatic just as the Red Sport uses. It appears the Z Proto had some kind of air/electronic suspension of sorts so there may be an adaptable suspension. The chassis is more than likely the same considering the wheel base is the same and Nissan does not have the money to develop a new chassis. I also kinda doubt it'll be updated or upgraded much either because again, Nissan does not have the money. The interior is virtually the same besides the new infotainment, driver digital dashboard, and yellow contrast accents.

Considering all that info and the fact that Nissan execs themselves said multiple times the car will come to production almost exactly as it is, this means that most, if not all the parts seen on the Z Proto will be on the production car.

I think a lot of people don't realize that the new Z is mostly still 370Z besides the above mentioned. Nissan shouldn't need to increase the price of the new Z very much because of this. I will bet that the new Z will start around $35,000 for the base model, going up to $45,000 MAX for the Sport/Premium/whatever line. This would be a perfect and unbeatable price point for the new Z and it would likely outsell just about all other competition on the market in that price range.

If you want to see how the above info is verified watch these videos.

FPenvy

i mean i have electronic/selectable suspension modes in the GTR and it works quite well lol

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triso07

Exactly. Basically the same as the 370z but probably slightly improved.

So the motor IS the big question mark in terms of how it will feel. I'm hoping for linear power, no dead spots, and hopefully some pull to the redline with minimal tapering.

Bonzo

People are talking about how it feels to drive. But no one I've seen here has mentioned probably the most important aspect of feel, at least to me. What kind of power steering assist will it have? Hydraulic or electronic? THAT is a big deal to me. I have yet to test drive any car with electronic assist that I like. It all sounds great on paper and the wallet, but in reality, in the end, it just doesn't have the same feel. Even BMWs and Porsches have lost the great feel they once had. The 370Z hydraulic system has some heft and weight and feels awesome. If the 400Z has electronic assist and its all too easy and lifeless, this will be the #1 reason I wouldn't want one.

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Firebase99

If a DCT isnt offered and they put in the same old slush box Nissan will lose credibility (to me anyway).

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tvfreakazoid

Let's hope they dont use the same auto trans as the q60.
When nissan decides to go auto, they better source it from another company. Maybe the zf tranny. But if they do, will they do a good job if tunning the auto tranny?

I'll be in my bunk!

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takemorepills

My 2016 GTI had EPS, and it was good, very good.

However, I have heard very bad things about the Nissan/Infiniti EPS, things like it is "the worst ever".