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If Nissan comes out with a 4 cylinder Z producing around 400 HP for 60K look for this car to flop and do horrible in sales. That amount of HP

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Old 08-06-2016, 12:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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If Nissan comes out with a 4 cylinder Z producing around 400 HP for 60K look for this car to flop and do horrible in sales. That amount of HP is just not enough unless they are trying to compete with the civic and corolla. I hope Nissan can come to there senses and become competitive for us Nissan Z enthusiast so we can have an answer for the mustangs and chargers of the world. Nissan has to make a statement and drops a lighter 3.0 twin turbo 580hp rear wheel drive monster to keep up with today's sports cars. A twin turbo 580 HP rear wheel drive Z has a nice ring to it doesn't it.
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If Nissan comes out with a 4 cylinder Z producing around 400 HP for 60K look for this car to flop and do horrible in sales. That amount of HP is just not enough unless they are trying to compete with the civic and corolla. I hope Nissan can come to there senses and become competitive for us Nissan Z enthusiast so we can have an answer for the mustangs and chargers of the world. Nissan has to make a statement and drops a lighter 3.0 twin turbo 580hp rear wheel drive monster to keep up with today's sports cars. A twin turbo 580 HP rear wheel drive Z has a nice ring to it doesn't it.
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If Nissan comes out with a 4 cylinder Z producing around 400 HP for 60K look for this car to flop and do horrible in sales. That amount of HP is just not enough unless they are trying to compete with the civic and corolla. I hope Nissan can come to there senses and become competitive for us Nissan Z enthusiast so we can have an answer for the mustangs and chargers of the world. Nissan has to make a statement and drops a lighter 3.0 twin turbo 580hp rear wheel drive monster to keep up with today's sports cars. A twin turbo 580 HP rear wheel drive Z has a nice ring to it doesn't it.
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If Nissan comes out with a 4 cylinder Z producing around 400 HP for 60K look for this car to flop and do horrible in sales. That amount of HP is just not enough unless they are trying to compete with the civic and corolla. I hope Nissan can come to there senses and become competitive for us Nissan Z enthusiast so we can have an answer for the mustangs and chargers of the world. Nissan has to make a statement and drops a lighter 3.0 twin turbo 580hp rear wheel drive monster to keep up with today's sports cars. A twin turbo 580 HP rear wheel drive Z has a nice ring to it doesn't it.
Yes cause the Corolla and Civic have massive power.... the new civic Type R coming out soonwill only have 300hp and be a 4 cyl turbo... if the new Z throws a 300hp variant with similar pricing than any true car guy would choose the Z. Front wheel drive sucks, typically have understeer and fight the steering wheel off a launch... not to mention 100s of other reasons FWD is inferior to RWD or AWD.

The closest FWD cars to being a great track car were the Type R integra and Celica GTS(yes I've driven both) but they were both still short of hitting that mark.
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Lets pretend that its out! And it costs 60k for the TwinTurbo Z35 making 450HP. Would you buy it?
Not a chance, might as well just save up a little more and get a Corvette, Porsche, or anything a top of the line Z28
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Not a chance, might as well just save up a little more and get a Corvette, Porsche, or anything a top of the line Z28

That's true. Like a 2015 Cayman S starting at 64k.
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Lets pretend that its out! And it costs 60k for the TwinTurbo Z35 making 450HP. Would you buy it?
That's why I bought a 2015. Didn't want the Bose noise additions, don't want batteries and a motor, don't want stock turbo on a tiny engine. If I wanted an economy car I'd own a Prius.

I can add boost to the 2015 and with a good exhaust it'll be incredible. Case closed.

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if it starts at $60K then no...way too much money and a more competitive price point...you start adding options and im sure it can easily go past $70K which is going into GTR territory
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if it starts at $60K then no...way too much money and a more competitive price point...you start adding options and im sure it can easily go past $70K which is going into GTR territory
$70,000 is not GTR territory
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Says who, there are tons of them pre owned for 70 k EASY. My local dealer is selling a 2014 for 90k flat
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Says who, there are tons of them pre owned for 70 k EASY. My local dealer is selling a 2014 for 90k flat
yea... even at 90, it still isn't close to 70. that's an extra 30% more
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No way anyone is going to buy a Z35 for $60K as wonderful as these cars are and like everyone has already mentioned, your getting into another class of car for that amount.

Just some food for thought though...I've noticed some of these Z35 articles coming out of Australia, where the price for cars is about double then what is is here in the US. There may be some confusion with this $60K price tag floating around.

I watch an Australian review of the Z34 and they said a new one will cost you some staggering amount...
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No way anyone is going to buy a Z35 for $60K as wonderful as these cars are and like everyone has already mentioned, your getting into another class of car for that amount.

Just some food for thought though...I've noticed some of these Z35 articles coming out of Australia, where the price for cars is about double then what is is here in the US. There may be some confusion with this $60K price tag floating around.
I think a lot of you are debating price based off of misinformation. I'm thinking Bshileds22 has something right here. I'm guessing the author of this article saw $60k in his research but didn't notice it is 60k AUS dollars which comes out to be about 45k-46k. Also I read where someone said they saw an article of the new Z weighing 1300 lbs. Again I think this is someone's failure to pay attention to the units of measurement. I am sure they meant to write 1300 kg or about 2886 lbs.

A 400-450 hp 3.0TT at 2900lbs for about 45k sounds very believable. This is based on a ton of speculation of course but I think this is more realistic and believable than a Z35 at 1300lb and 60k.

Actually here in an OOOLD article that matches some of the points I made.
Next Nissan Z scooped - motoring.com.au

Well since I am commenting I might as will throw in my hopes for what the next Z is so it stays relevant/competitive. I think they should definitely have 2 powertrain options. A turbo 4 cylinder, possibly the 2.0T Mercedes that has been suggested in other articles, with somewhere around 300HP @ 2900lbs would be a great frs/brz killer that could start around 25k that maxes out at 35k with sport and touring style packages. The other option could be a twin turbo 6 cylinder, again some articles suggest it would be a 3.0TT also be powered by Mercedes. Output could be north of 400HP @ 3100lbs allowing it to compete with the Mustang shopper. The price would need to stay around 35k base and max out around 45k with sport and touring packages. Maybe a Nismo version at 50-55k. Total speculation but just what I think should and could happen with the very limited info released so far.
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