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Old 04-07-2015, 07:35 PM   #226 (permalink)
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I never really thought about launch control before, but yeah, that would be a pretty cool option for a torquier Z. Do any other cars under $60K come with launch control? The new vette?
The 2015 Porsche Boxter S (I believe this is accurate?) and the Alpha Romeo 4c both come with Launch Control.
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Carlos Ghosn has a well known reputation for keeping costs under control and making cars profitable. A recipe that has worked for Nissan as well as other car manufacturers is using shared chassis/engines/parts and assembling these cars on the same line. Example Infiniti G/Q, 370Z & GTR on one assembly line.

Logic/business sense would suggest that Infiniti Q 50/60, Z35 & GTR will still be on the same assembly line, as these are the performance cars for Nissan. So yes, the Q's and Z's will most likely have many things in common with some trickle down technology learned from the current GTR.

A 400+ hp, TT V6, Z35 for $60k will not happen, as Carlos Ghosn knows all too well that it will not sell enough units. Thus it can't be profitable. As someone mentioned earlier, maybe in Australian dollars.

The sweet spot price for this 400+ hp Z35 should start right at or just below the Mustang GT starting price of $32.5k retail. A sport version or fairly well equipped Z35 at $37k and top of the line Nismo starting at $43k, well below the base C7 Vette, which now starts at $56k. If Nissan can maintain great steering/road feedback and maintain the current Z's weight at these prices, it will have a winner on it's hand.

Please keep in mind, the US dollar can now buy 120 yen so if the majority of parts can be manufactured and assembled in Japan, the prices I list could be very realistic.
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Carlos Ghosn has a well known reputation for keeping costs under control and making cars profitable. A recipe that has worked for Nissan as well as other car manufacturers is using shared chassis/engines/parts and assembling these cars on the same line. Example Infiniti G/Q, 370Z & GTR on one assembly line.

Logic/business sense would suggest that Infiniti Q 50/60, Z35 & GTR will still be on the same assembly line, as these are the performance cars for Nissan. So yes, the Q's and Z's will most likely have many things in common with some trickle down technology learned from the current GTR.

A 400+ hp, TT V6, Z35 for $60k will not happen, as Carlos Ghosn knows all too well that it will not sell enough units. Thus it can't be profitable. As someone mentioned earlier, maybe in Australian dollars.

The sweet spot price for this 400+ hp Z35 should start right at or just below the Mustang GT starting price of $32.5k retail. A sport version or fairly well equipped Z35 at $37k and top of the line Nismo starting at $43k, well below the base C7 Vette, which now starts at $56k. If Nissan can maintain great steering/road feedback and maintain the current Z's weight at these prices, it will have a winner on it's hand.

Please keep in mind, the US dollar can now buy 120 yen so if the majority of parts can be manufactured and assembled in Japan, the prices I list could be very realistic.
I am sure you are right on all these things.

But we can dream, and this is how some of us would dream,

A 3.7 V6 TT. lets assume that the Nissan just wants to take the risk and they price it at 60k !!
Now we can safely assume, that Nissan could easily get 500 crank hp atleast.
How many of us would buy it ?

I would !!!!
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No... clearly was referring to a person, would be retarded if he/she can't find a used GTR for the said amount. But that wasn't just directed towards you. Not saying you need to know everything about used cars but don't just bash on a topic that clearly you could use more research on. But hey I understand where you're coming from and that's why we all have options. I can't but a new GT-R or I would.
The Google said $70K. So that makes me an internet expert Obviously, I would do much more research than that if I were actually in the market.

I like how you explain that your underhanded retard insult wasn't directed at me by saying it was directed at a lot of people
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I never really thought about launch control before, but yeah, that would be a pretty cool option for a torquier Z. Do any other cars under $60K come with launch control? The new vette?
EcuTek software features launch control now

Not as sophisticated as some launch controls obviously, but a good option for a Z

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAFbQB1e7Mg
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EcuTek software features launch control now

Not as sophisticated as some launch controls obviously, but a good option for a Z

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAFbQB1e7Mg
ok that's pretty sick lol

I kinda want it now. but I know of a friend who had some major issues dealing with jon in the past. think it took him 2-3 months to hear back from him wen he was doing his tune. and then I think it was 3-4 months he finally received it. I remember he had me on the phone ith AAM talking about an emergency cobb tune so he could run at an event he had.
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ok that's pretty sick lol

I kinda want it now. but I know of a friend who had some major issues dealing with jon in the past. think it took him 2-3 months to hear back from him wen he was doing his tune. and then I think it was 3-4 months he finally received it. I remember he had me on the phone ith AAM talking about an emergency cobb tune so he could run at an event he had.
Well, only Jon seems to have these features so far. The two tuners local to me do not have access to them yet. I prefer dyno/drive tune over an e-tune, so I haven't reached out to Jon yet. But this discussion is for a different thread.
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Well, only Jon seems to have these features so far. The two tuners local to me do not have access to them yet. I prefer dyno/drive tune over an e-tune, so I haven't reached out to Jon yet. But this discussion is for a different thread.


now lets go to our secret place and discuss
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Not as sophisticated as some launch controls obviously, but a good option for a Z

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So the 370Z in stock form holds 4,500 rpm under no load conditions already. It isn't adjustable like this but ... probably too high for a decent launch but seems like the beginnings of a launch control that was never fully implemented.
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The Z had been designed to compete with the Porsche Boxster/Cayman's larger engine option for the last 2 generations at least.
In 2003 Boxster had 266hp, 350z 287. 2006 Boxster/Cayman's had 280/295hp and the 350z HR got 306hp. In 2009 Boxster/Cayman got a bump to 310/320hp. The 370z released with 332hp. I think there is a trend here, and currently the Boxster/Cayman have 326/345hp so if the trend continues to compete with the Porsche than the next Z will have over 350hp. However, a lot has changed in the last few years with the frs/brz release, CAFE compliance, and news from Nakamura that the next Z would be lighter, smaller and appeal to a wider audience. If Nissan does decide on two engine options they may compete with the frs/brz and the Cayman with the larger option. For me, I hope Nissan continues to compete with the Boxster/Cayman with the smaller engine option and compete with the V8's with the larger option.
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Nissan is not going to compete with the BRZ/FR-S with the next Z.
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Nissan is not going to compete with the BRZ/FR-S with the next Z.
talks of a 4cyl turbo have been floating around for a lower-tier engine package for the next Z. this would be to compete with the BRZ/FRs market but in my opinion that little trend is dying off almost as fast as it picked up.

considering the fact that there is a 3.0L TT V6 announced for the Q60 with options of an initial 400hp release followed by a 450HP option I think the next Z will have that as well. regardless as to a 4cyl option, the TT V6 is all I car about currently.
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Well the BRZ/FRS might be competing with the next Z. Looks like a turbo version is in the works for them. I think most of their owners realized $5k saving for 130 less hp wasn't a good deal.
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Well the BRZ/FRS might be competing with the next Z. Looks like a turbo version is in the works for them. I think most of their owners realized $5k saving for 130 less hp wasn't a good deal.


We'll see about that turbo version that has been in the works since the car came out. I don't think it's happening.

But I'd be happy if it did. More competition for the Z, means a better Z for me.
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