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DOOMMONKEY777 10-31-2015 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 3338709)
Why wont they just use the motor we already have and TT it?

VR38DETT is really that expensive??? to drop in to a 60k car?

The BlueMax 11-01-2015 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3338542)
3.5L V6 tubro with 333hp and 354 lbs of torque at 10.2 of boost. :icon14:

3.0L V6 turbo with 333hp and 354 lbs of torque at 26.1 of boost. :icon14:

For a boosted motors. The HP numbers are low for gas. For a diesel. Think that would be about right. :icon17: But both are gas motors. Reading in the comments section. Everyone is surprised at the low HP numbers.

At least there is 75 more foot pounds of torque and we don't even know the rpm band

Spooler 11-01-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 3338411)

You guys kill me. Nissan has never farmed out the engine design. Why in the world would you think they would stick a Mercedes engine in the car? Just too funny. Who would want that junk anyway.

2011_6Spd 11-01-2015 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 3338709)
Why wont they just use the motor we already have and TT it?

Need something lighter and get better gas mileage than the current 3.7

Magic Bus 11-01-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3339132)
You guys kill me. Nissan has never farmed out the engine design. Why in the world would you think they would stick a Mercedes engine in the car? Just too funny. Who would want that junk anyway.

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3338442)

In Z_ealot's link, C&D says it's Nissan's own direct injected, 3.0 v6 turbo that will be in the new Q60, also says, no manual trans and working on hydraulic, electric assist steering. Can't take this info as gospel but I hope C&D's info is at least 85% correct. The 15% wrong, is the no manual transmission part, I hope.

barncobob 11-01-2015 04:57 PM

Im coming from Porsche 997..new Ps will be less cc and turbo, no MT but PDK(automatic) and other wonders...
Im really enjoying my 16 Sport, no regrets

Davey 11-01-2015 06:26 PM

I really hate EPS. Even when it's good, it's still bad. :shakes head:

2011 Nismo#91 11-02-2015 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3339132)
You guys kill me. Nissan has never farmed out the engine design. Why in the world would you think they would stick a Mercedes engine in the car? Just too funny. Who would want that junk anyway.

Then why are there Renault badges in my engine bay?

FPenvy 11-02-2015 07:43 AM

man there's some whiny bitches in here lol

:yum:

Z_ealot 11-02-2015 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3339506)
Then why are there Renault badges in my engine bay?

You mean the ones on the throttle bodies and not the engine? Lol

FPenvy 11-02-2015 09:17 AM

also quit bitching about EPS because Nissan boss said the GTR and Z will have auto drive stuff in them before the end of the decade. it'll just drive itself lol

Get ready for the self-driving Nissan GT-R | Top Gear

2011 Nismo#91 11-02-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3339529)
You mean the ones on the throttle bodies and not the engine? Lol

Yeah, your right throttle bodies have little to do with running your engine. Lol

Z_ealot 11-02-2015 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3339565)
Yeah, your right throttle bodies have little to do with running your engine. Lol

And even less to do with engine design lol

/Angelo350Z/ 11-02-2015 10:59 AM

So the Z35 is supposed to debut in 2017 with a 3.0L turbo motor? Is that the consensus? This sh1t is getting ridiculous Nissan! I've been literally scoping out Mustangs because of this nonsense.

2011 Nismo#91 11-02-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3339575)
And even less to do with engine design lol

I'll just end this here with this.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/fo...ull_Retard.jpg

Rusty 11-02-2015 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3339608)

:confused:

Z_ealot 11-02-2015 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3339758)
:confused:

Ditto lol

Volk Z 11-04-2015 04:24 PM

This may have already been said but looking at how Nissan/Infiniti put out their cars it would appear that using the Infiniti Q60 as an engine guide we should see 2 engine choices for the New Z35.

1. 4 Cylinder Turbo 241hp for the base model
2. 6 Cylinder Twin Turbo 340hp or so sport model.
3. My speculation 3rd option with Nismo model and how Nissan is really emphasizing the Nismo brand I'm going with a 380hp V6TT with slightly higher boost and a Nismo turbo 3 inch exhaust

Options 1 and 2 are already confirmed for the 2017 Q60. Looking back to theG35/350z days in 2001 where the VQ motor was announced with 280hp for the G35 and then was dropped inthe 350z with slightly more power and Less weight. The 2017 Q60 looks to weigh in around 3700-3900 pounds. My guess is then the new Z will weigh around 3100-3200 pounds for the V6TT model but for the 4 cylinder turbo could weigh in 2900-3100. Leaner and much meaner.

Davey 11-04-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3339549)
also quit bitching about EPS because Nissan boss said the GTR and Z will have auto drive stuff in them before the end of the decade. it'll just drive itself lol

Get ready for the self-driving Nissan GT-R | Top Gear

Figures the guy who wants the car to shift itself would be in favor of the car steering itself. :facepalm:

Davey 11-04-2015 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/ (Post 3339593)
So the Z35 is supposed to debut in 2017 with a 3.0L turbo motor? Is that the consensus? This sh1t is getting ridiculous Nissan! I've been literally scoping out Mustangs because of this nonsense.

Dude the Mustang is a boat compared to the Z.

Don't get me wrong, the S550 is really pretty good, it's a fun, fast boat, but it's just not the same kind of car. :shakes head:

Also it has EPS. :ugh:

Magic Bus 11-04-2015 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 3341134)
This may have already been said but looking at how Nissan/Infiniti put out their cars it would appear that using the Infiniti Q60 as an engine guide we should see 2 engine choices for the New Z35.

1. 4 Cylinder Turbo 241hp for the base model
2. 6 Cylinder Twin Turbo 340hp or so sport model.
3. My speculation 3rd option with Nismo model and how Nissan is really emphasizing the Nismo brand I'm going with a 380hp V6TT with slightly higher boost and a Nismo turbo 3 inch exhaust

Options 1 and 2 are already confirmed for the 2017 Q60. Looking back to theG35/350z days in 2001 where the VQ motor was announced with 280hp for the G35 and then was dropped inthe 350z with slightly more power and Less weight. The 2017 Q60 looks to weigh in around 3700-3900 pounds. My guess is then the new Z will weigh around 3100-3200 pounds for the V6TT model but for the 4 cylinder turbo could weigh in 2900-3100. Leaner and much meaner.

Volk Z, Have the 1st 2 engines been confirmed by Infiniti?

Hopefully the Q60 might come in a little lighter. Current Q50 which is 4 inches longer, weigh in at 3,574 for base and 3,611 for premium.

Redglare 11-04-2015 06:52 PM

those engine options 1 & 2 sound good, a little dissapointed for the v6 tt only making 340hp, (I know 'turn up the boost bro' crowd will disagree, but what about us who wish to keep the warranty and keep the car stock, yet keep up with most modern sports cars?), I feel like 380hp for the based and maybe 400-420 for the nismo, and keep both under 3300lbs

MagmaRed370z 11-04-2015 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 3341226)
those engine options 1 & 2 sound good, a little dissapointed for the v6 tt only making 340hp, (I know 'turn up the boost bro' crowd will disagree, but what about us who wish to keep the warranty and keep the car stock, yet keep up with most modern sports cars?), I feel like 380hp for the based and maybe 400-420 for the nismo, and keep both under 3300lbs

I agree.

deftoneZ 11-05-2015 06:28 AM

I do not see a 4 banger option coming. For as much as they constantly talk about the Z and its heritage, keep in mind that no Z has ever had anything other than a 6 of some fashion. I don't see them starting now, there isn't a lot to be gained by it. Look at Hyundai and the Genesis coupe 4, they actually ended up dropping it .. and for good reason.

RicerX 11-05-2015 08:44 AM

The 4 banger turbo four that is listed is available in the Q50 for MY2016 already. It'll show up in the Q60, which means that if the next Z is to share the same platform, they'll be set up to accommodate multiple engine options.

They still have to greenlight the idea, but the architecture is there for them to go with it.

GZ3 11-05-2015 08:48 AM

really hope they dont, but if it means getting a proper Z back in the market then I guess its not a big deal.

FPenvy 11-05-2015 08:50 AM

Nissan need to release info pretty soon. i'm about over this waiting around nonsense.

I want info dammit!

NRTim 11-06-2015 07:30 PM

In unrelated Z news.....

2017 Infiniti Q60 Coupe spied for the first time

Lol at V8 rumors

Rusty 11-06-2015 07:44 PM

The helll with it. Think I might be going this way when I want a new car. :D

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UNKNOWN_370 11-07-2015 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 3341134)
This may have already been said but looking at how Nissan/Infiniti put out their cars it would appear that using the Infiniti Q60 as an engine guide we should see 2 engine choices for the New Z35.

1. 4 Cylinder Turbo 241hp for the base model
2. 6 Cylinder Twin Turbo 340hp or so sport model.
3. My speculation 3rd option with Nismo model and how Nissan is really emphasizing the Nismo brand I'm going with a 380hp V6TT with slightly higher boost and a Nismo turbo 3 inch exhaust

Options 1 and 2 are already confirmed for the 2017 Q60. Looking back to theG35/350z days in 2001 where the VQ motor was announced with 280hp for the G35 and then was dropped inthe 350z with slightly more power and Less weight. The 2017 Q60 looks to weigh in around 3700-3900 pounds. My guess is then the new Z will weigh around 3100-3200 pounds for the V6TT model but for the 4 cylinder turbo could weigh in 2900-3100. Leaner and much meaner.

Nismo engine would be the MB c450AMG engine. 362hp. Maybe add 5 to 8 more horsepower for the Nissan tuned exhaust. So 368 to 370hp...

No need to speculate engines. We're getting BENZ engines with certain Nissan parts and Nissan ecu tuning.

UNKNOWN_370 11-07-2015 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 3341200)
Volk Z, Have the 1st 2 engines been confirmed by Infiniti?

Hopefully the Q60 might come in a little lighter. Current Q50 which is 4 inches longer, weigh in at 3,574 for base and 3,611 for premium.

Engine 1 is confirmed. They're saying 211hp right now but. Cool might be more right. I think Nissan may want to tune that up...

MagmaRed370z 11-07-2015 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3343201)
Engine 1 is confirmed. They're saying 211hp right now but. Cool might be more right. I think Nissan may want to tune that up...

Is that an inline 4 Turbo? How do you know is confirmed for the next Z?

RicerX 11-09-2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3343199)
Nismo engine would be the MB c450AMG engine. 362hp. Maybe add 5 to 8 more horsepower for the Nissan tuned exhaust. So 368 to 370hp...

No need to speculate engines. We're getting BENZ engines with certain Nissan parts and Nissan ecu tuning.

Only the 4-banger turbo is a Merc motor. (as well as the diesel offered globally in the Q50 - that is also a Merc) The 3.0L Twin Turbo 6 has been confirmed multiple times by Infiniti reps to be a homegrown Nissan motor.

Davey 11-09-2015 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3343201)
Engine 1 is confirmed. They're saying 211hp right now but. Cool might be more right. I think Nissan may want to tune that up...

3500 lbs car with 211 hp?

:gtfo2: Nissan.

6spd 11-09-2015 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3343756)
Only the 4-banger turbo is a Merc motor. (as well as the diesel offered globally in the Q50 - that is also a Merc) The 3.0L Twin Turbo 6 has been confirmed multiple times by Infiniti reps to be a homegrown Nissan motor.

The phrase "I'll believe it when I see it" comes to mind.

sx moneypit 11-10-2015 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 3344027)
The phrase "I'll believe it when I see it" comes to mind.

My thoughts exactly.:iagree:

triso07 11-10-2015 09:21 AM

If the car is greater than 3300lbs it needs at least 375-400hp.

If they can get the weight down to just over 3000lbs then 330+ would suffice.

mishuko 11-10-2015 10:24 AM

and we would still want to see all the safety features, technologies, touch screens, heat warmers, power seat/windows, quieter ride and all the other things in a luxury car and still demand the weight be under 3300.

seen this before so let's reiterate...
here's a list and pick 2.

weight
power
cheap

good luck.

triso07 11-11-2015 02:24 PM

Here come the excuse generators for why a reasonable ask of a Z is apparently impossible.

triso07 11-11-2015 02:37 PM

Unfortunately the lighter portion of my comments are unlikely since the new q60 will probably weight 3500+ and more than likely the new Z will share that platform.


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