Can we talk about how Toyota is actually putting money into developing, producing and selling this:

https://www.motor1.com/features/3890...totype-review/

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/Yo...-spy-photo.jpg

They had to cram an AWD system, convert from 4dr to 2dr, slap on widebody, and drop in a turbo 1.3L 3cyl with a manual transmission into a Yaris, just to compete in some Rally championship

How is this gonna turn a profit?

But Toyota had to make the "financial" decision to partner on the Supra/Z4

I get that Toyota is doing way better than Nissan these days but holy crap, i can't believe they're basically making their version of the 22b in 2020. It's the antithesis of automatic transmission, hybrid powertrain, crossover SUV crap that everyone's doing

id be all over this if they sold it in america

2600 lbs
250 hp
awd
turbo
6spd manual
widebody

blargh it is basically a first generation STi. Apparently they need to sell 25,000 of these to homologate it for racing. they should really let US buyers help with that, cost be damned

Meanwhile, Nissan is just trying to figure out whether to put their ex CEO in jail

Uhhh... what the heck is that?
That's not a sports car. Some sort of hatchback.

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it will probably be more fun out of the box than anything you can buy from either toyota or nissan in 2020

I came in for an highly unlikely Z35 update :shakes head:

Please keep Toyota's discussions in the other cars section where they belong. :ugh2:

:ugh:

Yeah.......get that Toyota chit out of here. :shakes head: Only what to read about the next Z that ain't coming until 2030. :tup:

An administrator on the GTRlife forum posted that a Japanese magazine is saying Z35 won’t arrive until ‘25. What we get before that is a highly revised Z34 for ‘21 with new front end, interior and 3.0T motor. That mule at the ring could have simply been testing the current car with the new motor. Who knows but thought I’d pass it along.

I'm going to hate to know what will the new Z will be like 2025. Maybe a 4 cyn turbo.
Its probably a good idea what Infiniti uses in the coming yrs

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It's going to be a plug in. :shakes head:

LOL, the Club Sport that MA did was the first test mule. That build was sponsored by Nissan Nismo division.

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When there's a new engine option (and new front end for sure), doesn't Nissan have to re-certified for both collision standards and emissions tests?

Seems like alot of work to do a "modified" Z34 chassis with the 3.0T and go through all the paperwork just for it to be a stopgap

but hey, if there are good parts for us to scrounge, go for it

The engine would have to be certified for sure. By reusing an engine out of another car. It won't take much to certified it. If it was a whole new engine. Yeah, that would take longer.

If they just change the bumper cover. It might not need to be certified for that. If they make changes to the frame, bumper support. That would need to be certified.

The post said “drastically different front end”.

You can change the hood, fenders, headlights and bumper cover, and make it look drastic. Wouldn't be that much work on the frame. I don't see them making major changes on the frame to make it look "drastic". It would cost too much.

Just look at how many after market front bumpers that are produced.

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lol ... why is thread even still open?

Plus hoods, and fenders.

This is one of those forever threads. It will stay open until the forum shuts down, or Nissan makes the Z35. And if Nissan does. Then this thread will die in a month or two. Because everyone will be on the Z35 forum.

Fixed it...:bowrofl:

:rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEZK54uYeoQ

Dead video. :icon14:

It won't let me embed the video for some reason:confused:

And what does that prove? He’s the final word on all things Z I guess? His video is the definition of click bait.....

Don’t most people understand that car was not the Z35? Even a moron like me can see it’s the current car and not a prototype. That doesn’t mean that car wasn’t testing the new drive train. Jeez......talk about silly.

......and if that Japanese car mag is right when saying we will get a re-engined Z34 first, that would really fit. Maybe that will be in his next YouTube video 🙄.

Nothing.... just like every other video/pic/article on the matter :rolleyes:


I'm reporting every single post in this thread until Trips comes and shuts it down :icon17:

Why so angry!

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No anger. Just having fun at Trips' expense :D

Haha, that is what we do to those we care about!

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https://bestcarweb.jp/news/scoop/112869

Here’s the source for the info on the Z34 getting the tt motor for ‘21 and Z35 being delayed until ‘25. There’s a tab to read a (rough) English translation. Seems plausible but who knows. Pics are not legit thankfully.

HAHA... I literally just posted this. Im about to buy a 19 Nismo and want the VQ30DDTT

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ml#post3901035

Seems legit...

https://media1.giphy.com/media/wQvFuXLMOtw8o/giphy.gif

This seems realistic. Love the idea of a 240Z inspired front end, with a 300ZX inspired tail light treatment.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/01/16/...-nissan-z-car/

https://www.carscoops.com/2020/01/ne...gn-and-400-hp/

Another though this differs in that they report dealers have been shown a mock-up.

The last sentence in that article gets me. :rofl2: "grain of salt". :rofl2:

The auto tranny is a weak link. Especially compared to the tiptronic

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https://www.motor1.com/news/393342/n...itial-details/

Heres a Z35 article. According to the article, aside from the engine, only the front is changing and the interior. I'm guessing the chassis might not change? So they're doing what they shouldve done 4 yrs ago with the interior and 2 yrs ago with the engine?
I dunno. But with the current Nissan issues I think Nissan is about to fvck this up. The Q60 is not a good car. If its gonna be a short Q60 with a sentra interior. it's not gonna do well.

Keeping it manual will be good.
But to really get sales,put a DCT in it.
The Z chassis needs to be Nismo stiff on the base car and the Nismo needs to be camaro or ATS-v or alfa romeo stiff.

I thank some of these articles are confusing what sounds like an updated Z34 coming soon and the delayed Z35. Sounds like if there is an updated Z34, it will be the same body with a new front/rear, new interior and TT engine. Z35 would be a clean sheet design.

They definitely wont change the chassis. That's why they were using the q60 engine in a 2009 z body. Plus it doesnt make sense cost wise to use a new chassis for 1 car. Especially a low volume car.
Plus nissan isnt doing good financially.
And the automatic tranny is a let down too. I dont know why they are using that vs a tiptronic or dct.
But their dct is outdated



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