Need Help - Car Stalled and wont start

kholy · 09-30-2014, 07:47 PM

Just had an interesting twist in my problem.... So Nissan called and said i need to pick my car up or they will start charging me storage. I had my nice neighbor tow it home for me and got the Z back in the garage while i decided what i would be doing with it. I have a mechanic friend who really wanted to come look at the car so he came over with his scantool and did a scan on the car. He saw the cam shaft sensor bank A error which i had previously. Hes like did you check the sensor maybe just the sensor bad. I said i didn't replace it. he pulled the sensor and was like see if it starts now. Started right up after cranking a few seconds. Was able to let it run and shut off and back on. So now i am very angry with my local dealer who told me my motor was completely blown and wanted like 10,000$ to replace it. They ended up charging me 300$ to do diags on my car and all they could tell me was my engine was blown and i needed a new engine.

Sorry for my long ranting, need to find out what to do about nissan and my **** but my car started!!!!

OMG!

Joepro · 09-30-2014, 08:02 PM

Maybe I missed it what was the code? Nissan crank and cam sensors are notorious...but if its the dreaded p0011, well good luck....could be a vtc hub or a stetched chain...low and dirty oil will stretch a chain. Replace the sensor and fix the car before you get mad...and mad won't get your money back keep your cool and talk to the right people at the dealer...you will have to go higher than service but dealers shut down a lot when you threaten and act like a JA...the vtc hub actuators do not like dirty oil it's actually in the GSM to change the oil and test with some cam codes

zefaulter · 09-30-2014, 08:03 PM

Interesting! That's lucky! Get that oil changed ASAP lol

kholy · 09-30-2014, 08:08 PM

So Recently in the start of Aug my 09' 370z stopped working while I was driving. I had the car towed to my local Nissan dealership. I explained that I was driving and the car had shutdown on me and would not start back up. After 1 week of Nissan having my car they said they would need to do further tests as their initial tests they could not get the car to start/figure out any problem. They then called and wanted to charge me 300 dollars to do more diags and compression tests (Which they said if insurance covers the car will be covered). They did the compression tests 2 weeks later because they had to wait for some tools and a lift (i dont understand this as this was reason i took to nissan thinking they would have the equipment) and determined that the motor has jumped time and was blown and would need replacement. So after a few weeks of arguing about warranty because i was over an oil change and they said i was low on oil which caused the car to jump time (which now that the car is back i checked the dip stick and the car was at the L but has oil).

So I had the car sitting in the garage and a buddy of mine wanted to look at the car and see what he could find out. First thing him and I did was run a scan on the car again and saw the code was still a Sensor throwing the error. We unplugged the sensor and tried to start without the sensor and the car started right up after a few seconds of cranking. Ran fine and sounded perfect.

Now, what do i do about nissan? My car is running and i am going to replace that sensor but they charged me A) 300 dollars for doing nothing, B) wanted me to spend 10k on a new motor and C) was complete dicks about every single thing. (for example: explaining after market intakes cause these sort of problems)

Thanks and sorry for long rant

kholy · 09-30-2014, 08:10 PM

it was P0340

Camsaft Position Sensor A Circuit (Bank 1 or single sensor)

PENDING

Dreadnaught · 09-30-2014, 08:12 PM

I would call Nissan consumer affairs and pitch a bitch to them and file a complaint. The tech and/or service writer were trying to bend you over for some money in my opinion.

1slow370 · 09-30-2014, 08:17 PM

try changing the sensor and change the oil and see if it comes back.

kholy · 09-30-2014, 08:18 PM

ordering sensors first thing tomorrow

Trips · 09-30-2014, 08:20 PM

Even though they did almost nothing? You still may have to just bite the bullet and eat the cost, and move on to another dealer.

The good thing is you basically fixed it for the cost of the dealer time plus the cost of the bad sensor.

Good job! On diagnosing it yourself.

EDIT: I merged your threads

kholy · 09-30-2014, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trips

EDIT: I merged your threads

ha, thanks i was pretty fired up and needed to express myself

1slow370 · 09-30-2014, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kholy

ordering sensors first thing tomorrow

The other thing to do before you spend the money on the sensors is to swap the bank1 and bank two sensors. If it is the sensor it will throw code p0345 instead of the current p0340, otherwise you can spend $130 on sensors that you cant return and won't fix the problem. Do this first.

Edit: if the code doesn't move it may be a wire or connector or something physically wrong in bank one like a stuck timing pulley.

Joepro · 09-30-2014, 09:09 PM

ec-270 in fsm.

kholy · 09-30-2014, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joepro

ec-270 in fsm.

???

Joepro · 09-30-2014, 09:34 PM

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/370Z/Coupe/2009/EC.pdf

kholy · 10-01-2014, 08:22 AM

If there is a known problem with these sensors should i get an aftermarket sensor or a factory sensor again (after i test to see if bank switches)

09-30-2014, 07:47 PM	#61 (permalink)
kholy Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 218 Drives: 370z Sport Touring Rep Power: 14	Just had an interesting twist in my problem.... So Nissan called and said i need to pick my car up or they will start charging me storage. I had my nice neighbor tow it home for me and got the Z back in the garage while i decided what i would be doing with it. I have a mechanic friend who really wanted to come look at the car so he came over with his scantool and did a scan on the car. He saw the cam shaft sensor bank A error which i had previously. Hes like did you check the sensor maybe just the sensor bad. I said i didn't replace it. he pulled the sensor and was like see if it starts now. Started right up after cranking a few seconds. Was able to let it run and shut off and back on. So now i am very angry with my local dealer who told me my motor was completely blown and wanted like 10,000$ to replace it. They ended up charging me 300$ to do diags on my car and all they could tell me was my engine was blown and i needed a new engine. Sorry for my long ranting, need to find out what to do about nissan and my **** but my car started!!!! OMG! zefaulter likes this. __________________ 2009 Pearl White 370z Sport Touring Edition

09-30-2014, 08:02 PM	#62 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 33	Maybe I missed it what was the code? Nissan crank and cam sensors are notorious...but if its the dreaded p0011, well good luck....could be a vtc hub or a stetched chain...low and dirty oil will stretch a chain. Replace the sensor and fix the car before you get mad...and mad won't get your money back keep your cool and talk to the right people at the dealer...you will have to go higher than service but dealers shut down a lot when you threaten and act like a JA...the vtc hub actuators do not like dirty oil it's actually in the GSM to change the oil and test with some cam codes __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group Last edited by Joepro; 09-30-2014 at 08:07 PM.

09-30-2014, 08:08 PM	#64 (permalink)
kholy Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 218 Drives: 370z Sport Touring Rep Power: 14	Nissan Dealership Issues So Recently in the start of Aug my 09' 370z stopped working while I was driving. I had the car towed to my local Nissan dealership. I explained that I was driving and the car had shutdown on me and would not start back up. After 1 week of Nissan having my car they said they would need to do further tests as their initial tests they could not get the car to start/figure out any problem. They then called and wanted to charge me 300 dollars to do more diags and compression tests (Which they said if insurance covers the car will be covered). They did the compression tests 2 weeks later because they had to wait for some tools and a lift (i dont understand this as this was reason i took to nissan thinking they would have the equipment) and determined that the motor has jumped time and was blown and would need replacement. So after a few weeks of arguing about warranty because i was over an oil change and they said i was low on oil which caused the car to jump time (which now that the car is back i checked the dip stick and the car was at the L but has oil). So I had the car sitting in the garage and a buddy of mine wanted to look at the car and see what he could find out. First thing him and I did was run a scan on the car again and saw the code was still a Sensor throwing the error. We unplugged the sensor and tried to start without the sensor and the car started right up after a few seconds of cranking. Ran fine and sounded perfect. Now, what do i do about nissan? My car is running and i am going to replace that sensor but they charged me A) 300 dollars for doing nothing, B) wanted me to spend 10k on a new motor and C) was complete dicks about every single thing. (for example: explaining after market intakes cause these sort of problems) Thanks and sorry for long rant __________________ 2009 Pearl White 370z Sport Touring Edition

09-30-2014, 08:10 PM	#65 (permalink)
kholy Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 218 Drives: 370z Sport Touring Rep Power: 14	it was P0340 Camsaft Position Sensor A Circuit (Bank 1 or single sensor) PENDING __________________ 2009 Pearl White 370z Sport Touring Edition

09-30-2014, 08:12 PM	#66 (permalink)
Dreadnaught Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Farmington, Utah Posts: 582 Drives: 14 SR 370z 6MT Rep Power: 10139	I would call Nissan consumer affairs and pitch a bitch to them and file a complaint. The tech and/or service writer were trying to bend you over for some money in my opinion. __________________ Ford Diesel and Heavy Line Technician at your service.

09-30-2014, 08:03 PM	#63 (permalink)
zefaulter A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,983 Drives: 40th 370Z Rep Power: 27	Interesting! That's lucky! Get that oil changed ASAP lol

09-30-2014, 08:17 PM	#67 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7250	try changing the sensor and change the oil and see if it comes back. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

09-30-2014, 08:18 PM	#68 (permalink)
kholy Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 218 Drives: 370z Sport Touring Rep Power: 14	ordering sensors first thing tomorrow __________________ 2009 Pearl White 370z Sport Touring Edition

09-30-2014, 08:20 PM	#69 (permalink)
Trips Administrator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Disneyland, Ca Posts: 8,728 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 10	Even though they did almost nothing? You still may have to just bite the bullet and eat the cost, and move on to another dealer. The good thing is you basically fixed it for the cost of the dealer time plus the cost of the bad sensor. Good job! On diagnosing it yourself. EDIT: I merged your threads BuckeyeZ likes this. __________________ Last edited by Trips; 09-30-2014 at 08:26 PM.

09-30-2014, 09:09 PM	#72 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 33	ec-270 in fsm. __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group

09-30-2014, 09:34 PM	#74 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 33	http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/370Z/Coupe/2009/EC.pdf 370z_Roadster likes this. __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group

10-01-2014, 08:22 AM	#75 (permalink)
kholy Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 218 Drives: 370z Sport Touring Rep Power: 14	If there is a known problem with these sensors should i get an aftermarket sensor or a factory sensor again (after i test to see if bank switches) __________________ 2009 Pearl White 370z Sport Touring Edition

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