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Originally Posted by nis350 the reason I asked about dino oil is because I want to see if it is just as good as the expensive oil if the change

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Old 01-03-2015, 03:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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the reason I asked about dino oil is because I want to see if it is just as good as the expensive oil if the change interval is 3k-4k miles. i have heard many think that the good dino oil is just as good with short change interval.

I've personally used mobile-1 full synthetic for decades on all my cars with good results.
Depends. Dino oil breaks down really fast. The best to worst list is basically how long the oil stays oil with use under low to high extremes. Do a track day or get your oil above 200+ degrees and expect the dino oil to kill your motor fast. Redline on the other hand you'll be able to use for the 24 hours of Le Mans. As the oil breaks down and shears off that's when you want your micro lubricants to be there. Again Redline kills Mobil 1 for example. RL uses a better base and more Mo, Z, and Ph. For DD I still wouldn't use dino oil as it won't be synthetic. You still want the motor to not wear out.
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I am referring to just DD. Tracking is a completely different ball game and I do believe that you should use the best oil there is due to the extreme condition. I don't know exactly how a good dino comparing to a synthetic under normal driving condition with relatively short change interval. I use M-1 full synthetic just in case and it is just a few dollars more per change (diy).

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Depends. Dino oil breaks down really fast. The best to worst list is basically how long the oil stays oil with use under low to high extremes. Do a track day or get your oil above 200+ degrees and expect the dino oil to kill your motor fast. Redline on the other hand you'll be able to use for the 24 hours of Le Mans. As the oil breaks down and shears off that's when you want your micro lubricants to be there. Again Redline kills Mobil 1 for example. RL uses a better base and more Mo, Z, and Ph. For DD I still wouldn't use dino oil as it won't be synthetic. You still want the motor to not wear out.
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Gonna change oil this week. Hopefully my motor likes Mobil 1! Judging by that oil analysis maybe not so much. hmmm
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not sure how significant those stats are relative to the real engine longevity. While it is a different engine, my friend changed oil (dino) every 15-16k on his Camry and have no oil related engine issues at over 250k miles.

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not sure how significant those stats are relative to the real engine longevity. While it is a different engine, my friend changed oil (dino) every 15-16k on his Camry and have no oil related engine issues at over 250k miles.
And I believe it. But do a compression test and dyno it. This is why motors lose power over time. I bet it's no where near stock.
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I am sure there were tests done by the independent labs in a control environment. I would really like to see the results myself.

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And I believe it. But do a compression test and dyno it. This is why motors lose power over time. I bet it's no where near stock.
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And I believe it. But do a compression test and dyno it. This is why motors lose power over time. I bet it's no where near stock.
I'm intetested in that engine compression test that one day I want to take it.

1) I saw a youtube about how to do the self engine compression test, but I don't think I can do that. Where can I get the test then?

2) How much usually it costs?, I mean the compression test.

3) Sometimes I feel like it showes a bit slower response on my full-acceleration than before. Do you think the test result can answer to that feeling? Even now I'm not sure whether it really goes slower or just it's by my subjective.

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not sure how significant those stats are relative to the real engine longevity. While it is a different engine, my friend changed oil (dino) every 15-16k on his Camry and have no oil related engine issues at over 250k miles.
That's a Toyota. That's made by people who know how to build cars. They fix themselves
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i take that you're being facetious... Our motor is just fine.


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So this quickly devolved into our 10001st oil thread as expected.

Regarding diff types of oil synth vs Dino. If here talking about a dd car, even the z, IMO it doesn't matter and as long as you change the oil at regular intervals, you should be able to get 250k miles no problem assuming no manufacturing defects.

If you track, then that's when oil types, diff weights of oil etc start to matter IMO.
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Would Redline be better than Nissan's Ester?
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Would Redline be better than Nissan's Ester?
Both being ester, no. Redline having more molybdenum, yes.
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No no no, you need mobil 1.
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I use Wesson oil myself, with just a drop or two of Virgin Olive oil. ONLY the Italian genuine Olive Oil, mind you.



J/K, I use PYB, it's Moly levels are thru the roof, and I change at 3-3.5K intervals. I'll never go to track, and 5K is the highest my car tach has seen, and that was "S Shift" thinking I was going to 3rd instead of 5th at highway speeds.
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and 5K is the highest my car tach has seen, and that was "S Shift" thinking I was going to 3rd instead of 5th at highway speeds.


Why? You have to rev this car to make power.
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